
Originally Posted by
stlnl
Jones is number 3? Man, people have short memories. There has been a next big thing phenom about every 3-4 years, and all of them end up losing, and sometimes in crushing fashion that shows they had some issue not yet exposed.
Before we put ANYONE on a pfp list, I suggest perhaps we need to see them in at least 20-25 fights, because how a guy stacks against adversity/bad style matches is really the way we determine greatness, not how well they do against folks they match well against.
This is what I am trying to say also. You can put Jon Jones on top of the 205 ladder since he is the champion, but you need to wait a little and see what he does before the p4p list. Of course if your constructing the list from a factual not a fanboy point of view. Let Jones win more fights destroy other opponents in this class, move around in weight like go and take out a couple 230 pound heavyweights, and then we can place him on the p4p. Also I don't think anybody who is cutting massive weight should be on a p4p list since p4p is looking for the best overall fighter, not the strongest guy who can man handle his opponents because they are cutting weight. I like Jones and I love watching his fights, but I am not willing to change my understanding of p4p for him. For him to be truly pound for pound, he needs to prove himself in the HW division where he belongs. Guys like Siva, Penn, Edgar, Aldo ... are all fighting very close to their off season weigh and when they win a match, you know they won because pound for pound they were the better fighter. Their fighting performance is determined while they are in the ring. If you are going to consider their p4p rating then you need to compare their fighting ability to what weight they are actually performing at and guys like Jones, Anthony Johnson etc.. are nowhere near what they weigh in at, when they walk on that mat.