Elbows

[Isaiah Mendoza]

MMA is not a frigging real fight simulation without eye gauging. Put in eye gauging and hooking and clinch is a very bad idea, let somebody bite you in the balls and we will see if your stupid triangle attempt or high mount is gonna work. Why don't you shoot a double leg on a guy who is holding a knife and stabs you in the ribs 10 times before you pass to the side mount. Stop being stupid with this mma is real life simulation bullshit if your street fight credentials goes as far as watching you tube videos. If you want to know a bit more go talk to a soldier on how real life combat goes when you run out of ammo and then try to work it out under mma rules.

MMA is a sport, it is watched for entertainment, produced for money and fame, practiced for staying in shape, ego, fame and cash.

lol oh really? I got jumped at a party last summer and used jui jitsu and it worked nicely for me. Yes please go ask a soldier about how mma does not work in combat. Is that why American soldiers are taught gracie jui-jitsu? The American army is the most badass, dominate military force in the world. I'm sure they've got a pretty good grasp on how real combat goes. Just ask Daniel.

How about this let's just agree that elbows should stay in mma so it doesn't turn into a sport for pussies.

[AndyK5]

Dear Ex soldier and others, please go to a community college and take a reading and comprehension class.
Using techniques from mma in a street fight is one thing, saying mma represents street fighting therefore elbow should stay since they can be used in a street fight is another thing. If you go with that dimwit mentality, why should you not add other street fighting techniques in to mma?

[AndyK5]

You know what, no, I take all of that back, I just watched MC rolling with cole miller and all that nice rolling put me in good mood and put a smile on my face. I don't feel like arguing with anybody anymore. You guys are right, I am wrong, have fun on your future endeavors.

[Helge Båtstad]

lol oh really? I got jumped at a party last summer and used jui jitsu and it worked nicely for me. Yes please go ask a soldier about how mma does not work in combat. Is that why American soldiers are taught gracie jui-jitsu? The American army is the most badass, dominate military force in the world. I'm sure they've got a pretty good grasp on how real combat goes. Just ask Daniel.

How about this let's just agree that elbows should stay in mma so it doesn't turn into a sport for pussies.

Forgot misused. goes after dominate.

[Harry Evans]

Whether or not you think MMA is a "real fight simulation", we can easily agree it is an attempt to get as close as possible while still following modern laws, as well as modern medicine (protecting fighters from permanent damage that will prevent future fights). Rules are not arbitrarily made (generally). They are a "real fight situation", with added rules to support the legal and safety issues that arise when you have a fight sport in 2011.

That being said, scars have never been considered unacceptable permanent damage in MMA. Blinding is, thus the eye gouging rule, which has existed since or before UFC 1. Blood left in the eye causes blinding very quickly, so the fight is ended. It is possible that a guy with blood in his eyes could win, but highly unlikely. It's also possible a guy with a snapped arm could use adrenaline and knock the other guy out, but it's unlikely enough that the relative danger/damage is clearly not worthwhile.

Nobody reasonable complains when the fight is stopped after a completed armbar. If you think a guy with blood in his eyes should be allowed to continue, then you also think Sylvia should have been allowed to continue when Mir snapped his arm. But if you think that elbows should be removed entirely, then you should also think that armbars should be removed. I mean, if successful, either one can prematurely end a fight that might have continued on the street.