GI vs NO GI Bragging Rights This Saturday

[Eric Martinez]

Haha this thread is a joke! Gi is way better! Galvao, marcelo, cobrinha, caio, jacare, demian maia, jean jacques machado, gracie family, etc. *eddie bravo. And to show im not biased i only train nogi.

[callum weaver]

im not sure where on the thread it says nogi is better than gi but cheers for the input bro

[callum weaver]

bit confused as to why u train nogi aswell if thats ur opinion, i wouldnt of started another generic thread on the gi vs no gi debate, this thread is geared towards the jake shields vs gsp fight this saturday that may or may not give more respect to the nogi world if jake shields wins, as off the top of my head he is the only pure 100% nogi jj trained black belt/ top level fighter i can think of in mma. and to also see peoples thoughts on who will win the fight if the fight hits the ground/ in general.

if this was a gi vs nogi debate i would agree with u that gi trained competitors are currently better, but i could also give u a list or reasons for this, but this is another conversation

[bobby rivers]

Randy is a bb. You pretty much addressed what I was gettin at. If gsp is flying any flag, its wrestling with passing, aka American jj. Regardless of that quote.

[callum weaver]

i agree those r his main skills but in terms of training for jj those r gsp's beliefs, however i think he may have been persuaded to make these commets on the basis that it is known that jake shields has never touched a gi but is doing extremely well on the ground in mma,which may be contradicting the teachings of gsp's bjj trainers. i find it quite innovative of cesar gracie to award a black belt to someone who has never trained in a gi considering so many refuse to and the fact that hes part of a very prestigous family who have very strong views towards the gi.

[leach_jeffrey]

Don't see the connection.

1.) GSP isn't considered to be a top gi player
2.) They aren't grappling on Sat (punches will play a role)
3.) They won't be wearing gi's, so if a no-gi guy beats a gi guy with no gi's on, what would that prove?

Oh, and just so you know.......

Most newbie's hate the gi because it's more technical, hot, uncomfortable, and takes longer to get good at. However, if you stick with it, many people start to appreciate the gi (not all, but many). Don't hate on the gi just because you didn't try it or stick with it.


Since it may come up: I play both gi and no-gi. When I first started I hated the gi for the reasons above and liked no-gi because I could slip out of bad situations more often when I made mistakes. Now that I've been playing for a while, I really like gi better because it's more of a skill / strategy game than no-gi. Of course, if MMA is your thing, then no-gi would, of course, be preferrable, but if you are looking purely at jiu-jitsu, there is so much more to the gi game and it is therefore much more interesting. <----IMHO

[callum weaver]

it would prove that one is perhaps better for training before a fight. just so you know... i never said i hated the gi, theres is no gi bashing in the entire thread, i have only commented on the skill set of both fighters, u dont know me so u shouldnt presume to know what i train, for your information i train both and i wouldnt consider myself a 'newbie', think u should check the colour of ur own belt, news flash its blue not black so try not to be condescending. oh and i dont think its that its more technical, hot and uncomfortable that people dont stick with it, i think its bcos in a fight u have no handles, u dont grap and pull, u underhook and clinch. but more importantly it contradicts the rule of specificity in sports in that u should train how u are going to compete and can confuse ur muscle memory. as eddie has said its like a greco roman wrestler training judo before a greco roman tournament. but like i said i dont hate the gi i think any time on the mat is beneficial regardless of what ur wearing, maybe read the thread next time before going into gi defence mode, big kiss x

[Dean Nowling]

GSP sucks with a gi on. Your thread is stupid and igrorant.

[leach_jeffrey]

it would prove that one is perhaps better for training before a fight. just so you know... i never said i hated the gi, theres is no gi bashing in the entire thread, i have only commented on the skill set of both fighters, u dont know me so u shouldnt presume to know what i train, for your information i train both and i wouldnt consider myself a 'newbie', think u should check the colour of ur own belt, news flash its blue not black so try not to be condescending. oh and i dont think its that its more technical, hot and uncomfortable that people dont stick with it, i think its bcos in a fight u have no handles, u dont grap and pull, u underhook and clinch. but more importantly it contradicts the rule of specificity in sports in that u should train how u are going to compete and can confuse ur muscle memory. as eddie has said its like a greco roman wrestler training judo before a greco roman tournament. but like i said i dont hate the gi i think any time on the mat is beneficial regardless of what ur wearing, maybe read the thread next time before going into gi defence mode, big kiss x

Actually, I just felt like stirring the pot a little. Didn't mean to imply that you were a newbie, just stating that newbie's don't usually like the gi.

[Griffin Lambert]

American Jiu Jitsu for the win!