
Originally Posted by
Brent Elton
ryan isnt bigger, not that i know of maybe by height but idk about size
chael backs up his shit talking, and bader didnt do shit, if chael had a decent ranking in bjj or hell maybe even 10th planet i think he would be a serious threat on the ground
and i dont really like jones, mainly because of the fact that i knew that if he won, everybody would say "oh he needs to go to heavyweight and beat anderson", or "oh anderson needs to move up so bones can murder him" jones is a fluke
You sure you know MMA? You sound like a casual fan. Bader is HUGE. Sonnen is nowhere near as big as bader. And Jones folded him easy. Sonnen would suffer the same fate, especially with his horrible submission defense. Bader didn't do a thing because Jones shut him down. Not because he chose to do nothing.
I'll agree that it's premature to start all the Spider vs Bones threads. Bones still needs time and hasn't even defended the title. But he's far from a fluke. Bones dominates people. When's the last time you saw Matt Hammil tossed like a ragdoll and elbowed into pulp? When's the last time you saw shogun catch spinning back elbows and serious GnP? He made an undefeated Bader look like an amateur. He dismantles everyone he faces. Sorry dude, but that's no fluke.

Originally Posted by
James Davis
the hype about jones is what he represents...the new generation of guys that are just all about mma that never did anything else. He not only beat rua...he destroyed him and unlock Brock Rua is a Legend so you can't say that Rua was hyped or a can or anything. I think with our current batch of LHW the only 2 that have a shot at him are machida and rampage because of rampage's power and machidas awkward stand up. Not saying they would win..saying they have the most credible threats. If rampage beats Hammil I'm sure he gets the next title shot if Rashad doesn't beat Mr. Wonderful.
I think the Jones has an advantage over Silva because silva would be the person coming up to fight him. The same holds true with gsp coming up to fight silva.
As for Rashad? LOL...not even a prayer....rashad's lack of size is really going to hurt him against Jones...training with him or not. With the bigger LHWs in the mix I just don't see him being able to compete. We're not talking about Lidell and and griffin being gate keepers anymore. I expect him to beat Mr. Wonderful but I see him having a far harder time than some people expect and he may potentially be upset.
With Rashad having a long layoff and his current style lending itself more to wrestling than striking, I can see Phil beating him in the wrestling game. Decision for Phil.