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    repairing the joints

    so about a year ago I got knee surgery and my knee is fully functional, but I get artheritis-like pain and it pops a lot (painless) when I walk. I mean it doesen't keep me from doing jitz but it would be nice to have it be the way it used to be.

    So I was wondering, are there any prescriptions that I can talk to my doc about to help my knee repair itself back to how it used to be? I mean you hear about pro athletes healing in record times and the only explanation to that is that they must be using some kind of drug.

    I heard something about GHRP-6 working miracles on people, getting them back to perfect condition in a matter of weeks.

    But I'm not sure if I can get it as a prescription. So my question is, is there anything I can get to repair my joints? I do not want to do anything illegally because I would feel like a cheater, and it's really against my values to be that kind of person.

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    I have had joint problems for the last 13 years...I have not had any real significant results with anything really. =/

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    GLucosamine condroitin or proline helps along with fish oil. PM Conor Huen. He is a guru

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    http://www.vitacost.com/vibrant-heal...u=074306800084 that's what I take for my joints and I feel great when I'm using it.

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    i take one glucosamine tablet a day.. its probably doing something good. i rarely get injuries these days. you can get them from supermarkets i think.

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    but you should prob be rehabilitating - knee excercises like squatting and whatnot

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    First off, just a word about pro athletes, make no mistake that during the rehab process or post-op these guys are in therapy for HOURS daily working with top therapists and docs, not to mention the best meds (legal and sometimes illegal) that money can buy. So the miraculous recovery times in most cases are impossible to replicate by the general public.

    But, there are things you can do to help. Not sure about the GHRP-6 but like Frank said, glucosamine chondroitin and fish oil can be helpful to fight off joint inflammation which are both over-the-counter.

    One question I'm curious about is the nature of your previous knee surgery? Was it a total knee, arthroscopy, ACL repair, etc.? Arthritis-like symptoms (which are usually described as "achiness") are rare to find in patients post-total knee arthroscopies. On the other hand, if you were scoped or had a ligament repair, certainly there's a possibly that there's other damage in your knee which is now catching up with you.

    I do notice that you're looking for a pill or something like that to repair your knee. If the muscles surrounding the knee aren't sufficiently strong and flexible, medication for pain, inflammation or repair won't do you a whole lot of good in the long run as structurally, your knee still won't be sound.

    Since you mention going to see a doctor anyway, I would recommend either following up with a reputable orthopedic physician in your area, or better yet the doctor that performed the original surgery to discuss options, which of course supplementation or medication may be a part of. I also think physical therapy would certainly be viable and couldn't hurt. IMO, if you practice jitz on more than a purely recreational basis (say, 1-2x a week) then you need to essentially consider yourself an athlete and treat your body accordingly - in your case meaning that the strength you may need in your core, legs, etc. in order to avoid future injury would be greater than someone leading a sedentary lifestyle.

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    I from experience, acl reconnection to bone one leg. then year later blowing out the other knee twice,no surgery. Strengthen those muscles around the knees, they will keep everything tight. pills are useless and those joint stuff made mine feel soft so I quit taking that. Regular strength exercise & stretching is about the only thing that will get you close to Original but it will never be the same after an injury. I'm still nervous about jumping off high objects. I used to be able to jump off buildings 20' high no problem now 5' is sketchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Weise View Post
    First off, just a word about pro athletes, make no mistake that during the rehab process or post-op these guys are in therapy for HOURS daily working with top therapists and docs, not to mention the best meds (legal and sometimes illegal) that money can buy. So the miraculous recovery times in most cases are impossible to replicate by the general public.

    But, there are things you can do to help. Not sure about the GHRP-6 but like Frank said, glucosamine chondroitin and fish oil can be helpful to fight off joint inflammation which are both over-the-counter.

    One question I'm curious about is the nature of your previous knee surgery? Was it a total knee, arthroscopy, ACL repair, etc.? Arthritis-like symptoms (which are usually described as "achiness") are rare to find in patients post-total knee arthroscopies. On the other hand, if you were scoped or had a ligament repair, certainly there's a possibly that there's other damage in your knee which is now catching up with you.

    I do notice that you're looking for a pill or something like that to repair your knee. If the muscles surrounding the knee aren't sufficiently strong and flexible, medication for pain, inflammation or repair won't do you a whole lot of good in the long run as structurally, your knee still won't be sound.

    Since you mention going to see a doctor anyway, I would recommend either following up with a reputable orthopedic physician in your area, or better yet the doctor that performed the original surgery to discuss options, which of course supplementation or medication may be a part of. I also think physical therapy would certainly be viable and couldn't hurt. IMO, if you practice jitz on more than a purely recreational basis (say, 1-2x a week) then you need to essentially consider yourself an athlete and treat your body accordingly - in your case meaning that the strength you may need in your core, legs, etc. in order to avoid future injury would be greater than someone leading a sedentary lifestyle.
    My knee was scoped a year ago. The doctor diagnosed me with plica syndrome and said he had never seen so much buildup of inflamed plica in his life. He said I may never be able to do jitz again. I am now.

    I leg press 350 lbs, do leg extensions of 140 lbs, inner thigh press of 260 lbs, outer thigh press of 175 lbs, hamstring flexion of 130, do 30-50 body squats in varying stances (wide stance to shoulder width) and work these muscle 1-2 times a week (I weigh 150), and once in a while at jitz they throw a 200 pound dude on my back and have me do 6 sets of 10 squats so it's safe to say the muscles around my knee are pretty strong.

    I also did physical therapy post surgery for about 3 months.

    Hm in that case I wouldn't call it arthritis like symptoms, more like pain in the inner left portion of the knee when doing leg extension-like exercise. The pain improved dramatically over a 6 month period, then just plateaued. these days the pain does not improve or get worse with exercise it just kind of stays the same. I have taken glucosamine, fish oil, and ibeprofin, none of which made much difference.

    The pains not unbearable, and doesen't limit me, I'd just like a way for it to go away completely. I'm only 21 after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Morency View Post
    I from experience, acl reconnection to bone one leg. then year later blowing out the other knee twice,no surgery. Strengthen those muscles around the knees, they will keep everything tight. pills are useless and those joint stuff made mine feel soft so I quit taking that. Regular strength exercise & stretching is about the only thing that will get you close to Original but it will never be the same after an injury. I'm still nervous about jumping off high objects. I used to be able to jump off buildings 20' high no problem now 5' is sketchy.
    hahaha I feel you bro.

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