All the no-gi guys are ruining mma.

[StephenG]

If the Gi has helped you then great. But I will always believe its a huge waste of time, wearing a Gi is playing a game. No Gi is self defense applicable and MMA applicable.

It's interesting how the same moves hurt the same way
in and out of the gi. Who would have thought that a RNC
would work in a gi?

I hate how this thread a has become a real discussion, but fuck it...

It's not as if training in the gi makes you forget that you're not
wearing one when you're...well not wearing one. You don't suddenly
start reaching for invisible material when the need arises.

[WilliamGunter]

Since the gi vs nogi debate has popped up again, I'm curious. How many of you that trash on the gi have actually trained in it to form an opinion about it? And aren't just going off of what other people say about the gi.
I've trained the majority of my 6 years sans the gi. I still enjoy puting it on and rolling with the pajamas. Its fun. Jiu jitsu is jiu jitsu and unless you're really focusing on mma or adcc there's no need to be a hater

I've got 2 yrs under my belt one in gi one without, I don't like the gi, and for comps and or fights i don't use it, but it's fun in downtimes. going from gi to nogi the only thing isee as a problem is w/ sleeve control it makes you rely on wrist control in nogi, which can be hard. I do focus alot on no gi comps and mma but like i said I'll play in pjs every once and awhile.

[David Bradshaw]

It's interesting how the same moves hurt the same way
in and out of the gi. Who would have thought that a RNC
would work in a gi?

I hate how this thread a has become a real discussion, but fuck it...

It's not as if training in the gi makes you forget that you're not
wearing one when you're...well not wearing one. You don't suddenly
start reaching for invisible material when the need arises.

True, I don't suddenly forget no Gi moves that I have practiced in a Gi. But whats the point of training with a Gi, if its not applicable to self defense or MMA? I would much rather get used to not being able to dig my hands into someones Gi and get used to grappling when things are slippery. There is definitely something to be said there.

On a different note Renato Laranja is a Soap actor....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfd1L...eature=related

[Christopher Piper]

I pick fights @ nude colonies and on porn sets.

[Jake Grant]

That's not renato it's his twin! They where put up for adoption one became a 27 time bjj champ the other a soap actor? Wow that sounds like a Jean claud van dame movie

[Luis Candelas, BCG]

When I get in street fights, I usually go to inverted or spider guard.
For one, it makes me look tough. And secondly I can sweep for points
from that position. After that I work for knee on belly, then go back
to standing just to prove I'm not trying to just win by points.

exactly...finally someone understands me

[David Bradshaw]

exactly...finally someone understands me

I'm really hoping you got the joke there

[Luis Candelas, BCG]

I'm really hoping you got the joke there

what joke??? i'm seriously preparing for a jean jacket rapist

[Dean Nowling]

What is ruining MMA is rules. There are too many. No face stomps! No kicks to the groin! No shots to the back of the head! No 12 to 6 elbows! No holding the fence! etc. All this should be legal.

Rules were made to legalize it again...

[Brian Morency]

The Gi will give you magic powers like flight if you put it on and tie the belt properly. Go to your nearest roof and try it. It works for me every time, with a few bad landings at first, I got it down.