Vinny Magalhaes vs. Werdum ADCC Final(video)

[Jack LaBarge]

Vinny is fighting tonight on Showtime. Anybody have a live stream?

[AJ Camacho]

Exactly what I was thinking haha.
It had nothing to do with Werdum's techinique. Did you not see how Vinny's army was bending? That was all about Vinny being tough and having flexible joints. My wife's arms do the same thing. Its creepy

Hey, I'm just asking questions. Vinny comes onto these boards sometimes so it would be great to hear his take on the arm bar. I mean it didn't look like Vinny was lost or toughing it out. It looked like he was intentionally positioning himself a certain way.

[K Madden]

Hey, I'm just asking questions. Vinny comes onto these boards sometimes so it would be great to hear his take on the arm bar. I mean it didn't look like Vinny was lost or toughing it out. It looked like he was intentionally positioning himself a certain way.

you were good buddy. it was just really nice to go to ADCC, and NOT have every dumbass that has been doing JJ for a year try and yell out instructions to the competitors. they know what they are doing. it was nice.

[James Fazzolari]

On the live broadcast, the commentators were talking about Vinny intentionally turning away and getting his shoulder as high off the ground as possible - the effect was to diffuse some of the power into the shoulder instead of just the arm. I can't really explain it any better than that, but if you can listen to the broadcast the commentators will do a much better job than me of explaining.

[Brent Smith]

Hey, I'm just asking questions. Vinny comes onto these boards sometimes so it would be great to hear his take on the arm bar. I mean it didn't look like Vinny was lost or toughing it out. It looked like he was intentionally positioning himself a certain way.

Oh no my comment wasnt directed towards you. Your questions were legitimate. I think the way he was positioning himself was taking some pressure off too. I was more finding humor that a multiple time jiu jitsu champion was being critiqued on his technique

[Justin W.]

Exactly what I was thinking haha.
It had nothing to do with Werdum's techinique. Did you not see how Vinny's army was bending? That was all about Vinny being tough and having flexible joints. My wife's arms do the same thing. Its creepy

What Tyler said about Werdum not pinching his legs together, was true. Everyone knows you have to pinch your legs together and of course Werdum knows that but he made a mistake. Look at when Werdum goes to finish the armbar, he opens his legs when he bridges, which relieved a lot of the pressure. What Jameson said was also a good point, Werdum was under Vinny's armpit. This means he was bending his shoulder, instead of his elbow. Another thing to point out, is that Werdum's feet weren't touching the floor, so he couldn't isolate the shoulder. Every time Werdum lifted his hips up, Vinny's shoulder went up with it. Shawn Williams was pointing this out at the event. Yes, Vinny's elbows are a little more flexible than the average persons. My elbows goes backwards a lot but if the armbar is done right, it will for sure snap the elbow. Also, whenever Werdum put Vinny's arm under his armpit, Vinny would start to escape, so that's why Werdum kept switching it back and forth. I disagree that the armbar was not finished just because of Vinny having slightly flexible elbows and he's just being tough. You can be tough all you want but it doesn't mean your arm won't break. This was a combination of Werdum making mistakes, Vinny realizing those mistakes and taking advantage of it, as well as Vinny having slightly flexible elbows. Again, no one is claiming that Werdum doesn't know how to do a proper armbar. He was probably tired or got wrapped up in the heat of the moment. No one performs everything they know perfectly when competing. There are always mistakes. I thought those comments about that white belt shit were fucked up. If they said something wrong, then point it out but they didn't, unless you guys think that it's good to not pinch your knees together when doing an armbar.

[Mike Dewitt Jr]

I imagine he knew that the submission wasn't working an quite possibly was trying to bait Vinny into a transition to another submission. I find it hard to believe that a multiple time world and adcc champ just forgot how to perform an armbar properly.

[Michael Sioda]

Holy shit, that was crazy - Vinny's arm must still be sore today from getting wrenched on for 3 minutes by a monster like Werdum.

I think it doesn't matter how tired Werdum is, he isn't going to forget to pinch his knees together or make some rookie mistake like that. However, I'll go on record saying that he would not have lost that match if he was training under the legendary master, Steven Seagal. SFS would have given Werdum-son some pointers on sharpening his technique 4 sure.

[Brent Smith]

What Tyler said about Werdum not pinching his legs together, was true. Everyone knows you have to pinch your legs together and of course Werdum knows that but he made a mistake. Look at when Werdum goes to finish the armbar, he opens his legs when he bridges, which relieved a lot of the pressure. What Jameson said was also a good point, Werdum was under Vinny's armpit. This means he was bending his shoulder, instead of his elbow. Another thing to point out, is that Werdum's feet weren't touching the floor, so he couldn't isolate the shoulder. Every time Werdum lifted his hips up, Vinny's shoulder went up with it. Shawn Williams was pointing this out at the event. Yes, Vinny's elbows are a little more flexible than the average persons. My elbows goes backwards a lot but if the armbar is done right, it will for sure snap the elbow. Also, whenever Werdum put Vinny's arm under his armpit, Vinny would start to escape, so that's why Werdum kept switching it back and forth. I disagree that the armbar was not finished just because of Vinny having slightly flexible elbows and he's just being tough. You can be tough all you want but it doesn't mean your arm won't break. This was a combination of Werdum making mistakes, Vinny realizing those mistakes and taking advantage of it, as well as Vinny having slightly flexible elbows. Again, no one is claiming that Werdum doesn't know how to do a proper armbar. He was probably tired or got wrapped up in the heat of the moment. No one performs everything they know perfectly when competing. There are always mistakes. I thought those comments about that white belt shit were fucked up. If they said something wrong, then point it out but they didn't, unless you guys think that it's good to not pinch your knees together when doing an armbar.

lol. Yeah Kendell quit pissing people off

[Brent Smith]

holy shit, that was crazy - vinny's arm must still be sore today from getting wrenched on for 3 minutes by a monster like werdum.

I think it doesn't matter how tired werdum is, he isn't going to forget to pinch his knees together or make some rookie mistake like that. However, i'll go on record saying that he would not have lost that match if he was training under the legendary master, steven seagal. Sfs would have given werdum-son some pointers on sharpening his technique 4 sure.

haha