
Originally Posted by
Paul Surridge
i dont know about "dream catcher" but we worked it last night to great success from turtle. when we grabbed the ankle low it seemed more of a choke and when we grabbd high on the shin it was a nasty crank. We were having trouble from the back gotta figure out that happy medium btween enough space and too much space. great choke, my votes for the indiana necktie tho
I totally agree....Indiana Necktie or something with necktie kept in the name...I do not like "dream catcher" at all

It will forever be Indiana necktie to me