You guys have to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stephen Rae]

You gotta be kidding me. You may be the biggest moron on this forum. You didn't find that excessively violent? He beats her in rage and threatens to spank her in the face.

I spank my children. It doesn't look like this.

Like I said, I, along with many others I'm sure have had wayyyyy worse. She wouldn't listen to him so he spanked her on the legs. I bet if she had just listened things would have gone a lot smoother, and all this screaming and drama would not have had to happen. She was only yelling like that because she didn't want to be spanked. She would yell when her dad was spanking her, but when her mom gave it to her she didn't even let out a peep. Why? Because she let her mom hit her. She didn't let her dad hit her so it was a big fucking deal. Whatever.

[Cody Kietzman]

So you were given corporal punishment as a child. Though I admit the bottles and jars are unacceptable, other than that, are you fine? Do you flinch every time someone raises their hand near you? Does the though of branches give you the willies? Are you constantly bombarded by nightmares of your Dad spanking you for disobeying his rules? No? I'm willing to bet your a perfectly normal Human Being for the most part, and that you have respect for your parents. I may not have liked that I got whooped sometimes, but it's not up to me how I get punished, just like it isn't up to you guys how he punishes her. So he whooped her with a belt? At least he wasn't kicking her in the ribs, punching her in the back of the head, or worse. You guys need to chill with the whole "I HOPE HE LOOSES HIS JOB RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" because it's retarded.

I would respect no man that laid hands on me in that manner. I was spanked as a child but it wasnt like this I knew it pained my mother to do so and i love and respect her but she has the right to defend herself when things get to this level...lay your hands on me like that and prepare for a fight hands down no questions asked.

[Stephen Rae]

Just like daddy beat you....you are a case study in itself.

Wow man that's pretty fucking low.

[John Sheridan]

So he whooped her with a belt? At least he wasn't kicking her in the ribs, punching her in the back of the head, or worse. You guys need to chill with the whole "I HOPE HE LOOSES HIS JOB RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" because it's retarded.

You don't know that she wasn't kicked in the ribs, punched in the back of the head or worse. Apparently this girl who was beat 7 years ago still has trauma from it. So why don't you stay out of her business.

[Cody Kietzman]

Like I said, I, along with many others I'm sure have had wayyyyy worse. She wouldn't listen to him so he spanked her on the legs. I bet if she had just listened things would have gone a lot smoother, and all this screaming and drama would not have had to happen. She was only yelling like that because she didn't want to be spanked. She would yell when her dad was spanking her, but when her mom gave it to her she didn't even let out a peep. Why? Because she let her mom hit her. She didn't let her dad hit her so it was a big fucking deal. Whatever.

because mom was rational (relatively) and said she was going to do it once and be done. He was losing his mind with rage (a state that u shouldn't punish people in) she was obviously very afraid of him and he appeared to be hitting her much harder....where is CIA i wonder what he would say

[Cody Kietzman]

Wow man that's pretty fucking low.

Kind of like the way William Adams beat the fuck out of a child with Palsy...ya that's low too. lol

[John Sheridan]

Kind of like the way William Adams beat the fuck out of a child with Palsy...ya that's low too. lol

Well stated!

[Tyler Timmermans]

they should put that guy in GP when he goes to jail.

[John Sheridan]

because mom was rational (relatively) and said she was going to do it once and be done. He was losing his mind with rage (a state that u shouldn't punish people in) she was obviously very afraid of him and he appeared to be hitting her much harder....where is CIA i wonder what he would say

Mom was also a victim of abuse. She was scared of this guy and eventually left him. It looks like this was her way of protecting her daughter from the maniac judge. Notice she took the belt away from the judge, of course jack ass went and got another one and came back. But it appears the mother was trying to protect the daughter and avoiding the violent wrath of the judge at the same time.

[Chris Ludington]

So you were given corporal punishment as a child. Though I admit the bottles and jars are unacceptable, other than that, are you fine? Do you flinch every time someone raises their hand near you? Does the though of branches give you the willies? Are you constantly bombarded by nightmares of your Dad spanking you for disobeying his rules? No? I'm willing to bet your a perfectly normal Human Being for the most part, and that you have respect for your parents. I may not have liked that I got whooped sometimes, but it's not up to me how I get punished, just like it isn't up to you guys how he punishes her. So he whooped her with a belt? At least he wasn't kicking her in the ribs, punching her in the back of the head, or worse. You guys need to chill with the whole "I HOPE HE LOOSES HIS JOB RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" because it's retarded.

My father was an abusive (mentally and physically) person. He continues to be abusive although it's not nearly as effective now that he is old and I am grown. Without the huge sob story I can tell you this. I moved out when I was 12. He and I got into a fist fight when I was 15 and if not for a very close girlfriend of mine stopping me, I can almost assure you I would have killed him. I was arrested at 16 for shooting a man. I spent almost 2 years in the system and fortunately for me I was assigned a case worker that recognized my issues and placed me in a therapeutic environment (group home for abused and neglected children) instead of letting me rot in lock up. During my time at that group home I learned a lot about abuse and anger and self control. I learned that normal human beings don't do this type of shit to their children.

So yes, I am a pretty decent guy, a hell of a dad, and a contributing member of society. But it wasn't without years of therapy and counseling to recover from the shit that my father did to me.

So I think I have at least some authority to speak on this matter. If not this case in particular but at least abuse in general.