Tired of the hate...

[bobby rivers]

Whateverman. Im tryin to learn. Im not bitchin about the rules. Just tryin to figure out if winning an ibjj tourney is what 10p was designed for. Other systems/schools/teams gear all of there training towards winning in these tournies. I watched 13 hours of grappling yesterday and it was amazing. Im trying to understand what I put so much time into better.

At my gym, we always grapple like someone can punch you in the face. Im doing more tournaments now and selfeducating myself on a completely different strategy toward grappling. If it bugs you, take your own advice.

[J Grooms]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but to me the rules seem to discriminate against anything other than traditional bjj. It's harder to break a leg with a kneebar than to break an arm with an armbar. Yet it's not allowed at lower ranks. they seem to think that if you are a purple belt you won't be able to tap from a kneebar to save your leg. Same with bicep and calf slicers. Why are those not allowed at lower ranks?

That's just how it seems to me.

[Matthias Sieber]

Well... I was surprised to see how many people - even the purple belts - had trouble with the 50/50 guard. They didn't know much about the position and more often blew their own knee in an effort of passing the guard by force. So maybe it's a good thing that there are those rules. Sure it takes a lot weapons away. But why not get really good at the stuff you can always use? If you don't think that the No Gi Worlds tournament is relevant for you, then don't get upset about this topic. I noticed I already reached my original goal I had when I started doing BJJ. It was not about belts or winning tournaments. It was about not being punched in the face when an opponent is mounting me. Thanks to 10th Planet I'm a much better grappler - also but not limited to situations where striking is involved. But I don't need to be punched or have a special action from my opponent to pull a fancy submission on him. I got options through a dominant positional game where I can chose which path to follow. It was never about falling to my back to get a sneaky choke or don't have nothing at all and be fucked.

Position before submission. I hated that phrase and I admit I like to go for the kill, but I want to be able to do it controlled. Position is important. That doesn't mean we all need to start wrestling nor breakdancing - everything can help - just be smart and think about YOUR way to success. Visualize and adjust things when necessary.

[J Grooms]

Well... I was surprised to see how many people - even the purple belts - had trouble with the 50/50 guard. They didn't know much about the position and more often blew their own knee in an effort of passing the guard by force. So maybe it's a good thing that there are those rules.

That's kinda their own fault then. If I thought that extending my arm would be a good way to escape an armbar then it's my own dumb ass fault. Just be knowledgeable about the submission and so forth.

My point is: It seems that the rules are geared toward traditional BJJ. That is why they are the way they are.

[Matthias Sieber]

Duh! It's the IBJJF... Of course!

But what's your point? My one is beating "them" at their own game is fun.

[bobby rivers]

Thats what I was kinda workin towards. Many people are trying to corrolate the results of this tourney to 10ps evolution and success. Im thinkin its not so relevent.

[Matthias Sieber]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ISHY...e_gdata_player

Somebody needs to embed this one for me. Typing since days on my iPhone.

[bobby rivers]

gotcha

[Luis Candelas, BCG]

I will never stop believin in 10p tho. Cuz what if they can punch you in tha face?

very well said...all the hate has changed me and turned me into a GI-Jiu-Jitsu hater. time to be on the offensive instead of the defensive. the revolution will take over soon enough and if not, meet us in the back alley and we can show you what's up! no rules!!!

[Tammo Haarhuis]

my one is beating "them" at their own game is fun.

yes!