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    just practice it, When you pull guard in competition, you will have mission control by the time your back hits the matt.

    also dont forget wrestling is just as important or even more so as rubberguard if you are starting out

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    as a 10th planet noob my biggest problem was and still is getting to mission control, i think the best tip i ever saw was from Ramone (blue belt) when he showed me the right way to angle out to my side as i raised my leg. if you lean over to the side of your mission control left your flexibility doesnt need to be as good as when your almost straight with the guy. im short and thick so my legs are terrinle for guard work most the time. but ive started to make it work really well at times, only problem i have now is triangles lol. best of luck on your training buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Sales View Post
    Hi guys, basically i am wondering if anybody has any tips on how to pull mission control quicker? Once i get mission control I have no issues with zombie, new york, chill dog, kung fu move, jiu claw etc, just every now and then a have trouble catching the leg when going for mission control.
    TBH i only started using the 10th planet system a couple of weeks ago (via MTS and Eddies dvd's, youtube vids etc) but am fully committed to it, i absolutely love it and am using it every day against guys in my gym. Have also made huge strides with my flexibility and stuff already. I can get into a slightly ugly lotus position lol, get my ankles in and knees to the floor too, and can nearly get my leg behind my head whilst standing but i am just wondering if there is any special exercise or anything you do to help with flicking that leg up for mission control motion? Or do i just carry on with my stretching and daily practice of it? Not looking for any shortcuts, just wondered if there was something you guys do that might help.

    Thanks in advance. You 10th planet guys are fucking awesome. :-)
    Sam since you've only been at it a few weeks the best advice is to just keep putting the reps. It's going to take some serious "time in" to get that muscle memory to set it, and then you'll start developing the sensitivity to feel what’s going wrong. Angling your hips will help, however make sure to squeeze your knees. Once of the big problems for Rubber Guard rookies is leaving the knees wide open when they angle to establish Mission Control, leaving themselves open to get passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Sales View Post
    That would be brilliant mate, thanks. will have to arrange something sometime. I have booked Sean Bollinger to come in on the 22nd of feb too, so that should be awesome.
    Basically everybody at my gym has decided to ditch gi work this last few weeks. Someone said it was like a virus, and they are not wrong LOL. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    Sam since you've only been at it a few weeks the best advice is to just keep putting the reps. It's going to take some serious "time in" to get that muscle memory to set it, and then you'll start developing the sensitivity to feel what’s going wrong. Angling your hips will help, however make sure to squeeze your knees. Once of the big problems for Rubber Guard rookies is leaving the knees wide open when they angle to establish Mission Control, leaving themselves open to get passed.
    THIS! Guys will instinctively try pass the leg that isn't used for mission control. Seeing as you're not that flexible, double bagger is not really an option so pinch those knees hard as hell. If he tries pushing your leg down you can always swing it wide and cross your feet for crackhead control. Just remember that once you are in mission control you have time so stay tight and think.

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    Hi guys, thanks so much for all the advice. Much appreciated. Will make note of all of it. :-)
    I am pretty sure even though whilst i have been drilling technique i have made a point of remembering to keep my knees squeezed/pinched, whilst actually rolling i had forgotten that part sometimes for some odd reason.
    I really want to get my mission control technique really really clean and tight though. As once i get there i am having a lot of success submitting guys in training with gogoplatas etc. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Sales View Post
    Hi guys, thanks so much for all the advice. Much appreciated. Will make note of all of it. :-)
    I am pretty sure even though whilst i have been drilling technique i have made a point of remembering to keep my knees squeezed/pinched, whilst actually rolling i had forgotten that part sometimes for some odd reason.
    I really want to get my mission control technique really really clean and tight though. As once i get there i am having a lot of success submitting guys in training with gogoplatas etc. :-)
    Remembering to squeeze your knees is not the same as having crazy squeeze. Remember there are levels to everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    Remembering to squeeze your knees is not the same as having crazy squeeze. Remember there are levels to everything.
    So you are saying don't got 'too hard' on the squeeze? Basically not so tight that you are wasting a heap of energy on it? Thanks :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Sales View Post
    So you are saying don't got 'too hard' on the squeeze? Basically not so tight that you are wasting a heap of energy on it? Thanks :-)
    No, what I'm saying his you have to develop your squeeze. Its not about how hard you can squeeze. Its about how hard you can squeeze, and for how long. You have to develop a crushing squeeze, along with the endurance to maintain it over very long periods of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    No, what I'm saying his you have to develop your squeeze. Its not about how hard you can squeeze. Its about how hard you can squeeze, and for how long. You have to develop a crushing squeeze, along with the endurance to maintain it over very long periods of time.
    Ahh cool, i get you now. Thanks. So i can potentially work on that in training of course, and with say a large medicine ball or something too? :-)

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