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Carlson Gracie on the importance of training Gi and Nogi and the break from Gracie JJ
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That whole article screams about the close mindedness if many of the Gracies....
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Mario Sperry, Arona, Bustamonte and others broke away from Carlson because they wanted to add wrestling and kickboxing to their training and that's what they did bringing in people down to Brazil like top wrestler Darrel Gholar to which Carlson disapproved as he wanted to supervise their training. None of the older generation of Gracies thought they needed anything but GJJ.
Have things changed that much today?
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In 1999–2000 Rorion Gracie was involved with a legal dispute with his cousin Carley Gracie for trademark infringement. Rorion ultimately won his lawsuit and was awarded $108,000 in damages (along with $620,000 in attorney's fees
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For someone who said they believed in their technique so much, he sure didn't have much confidence in them. Its like, oh no, if they find out how we do it, it might not work anymore. That's silly
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Originally Posted by 10th Planet Riverside, Ca
In 1999–2000 Rorion Gracie was involved with a legal dispute with his cousin Carley Gracie for trademark infringement. Rorion ultimately won his lawsuit and was awarded $108,000 in damages (along with $620,000 in attorney's fees) from Carley for infringement of the triangle logo trademark, though the jury found in favour of Carley that Rorion did not have a valid federal trademark for the name "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu".
I HATE is when ppl copy and paste from Wikipedia and present it as historical evidence
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I thought they broke away because of money not wrestling Originally Posted by 10th Planet Riverside, Ca
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It's ironic. The Gracies represented an evolution in martial arts. They presented an aspect of fighting that was neglected. They presented an art that, without it, others were unable to defend. But GJJ didn't negate boxing's effectiveness. Boxing is still a viable martial art. Muay Thai is as well. So is wrestling. And as time goes on, we're seeing Capoeira kicks, traditional Karate kicks, TKD kicks being used effectively in real fights. Originally Posted by 10th Planet Riverside, Ca
Why is this? Because now everyone knows BJJ. It isn't the same where you went to the ground with a BJJ guy and it was pretty much over. BJJ has helped other martial arts fill in the gaps. Now, BJJ needs to fill in its own gaps.
The element of surprise is still the most valuable asset of any martial art. In striking they always say, it's the one you don't see that puts you out. In JJ it's usually the sub you don't see coming that taps you. I guess they still want the element of surprise. But for the rest of us, we use set up and misdirection to be effective with your JJ. Originally Posted by sean applegate
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Its like, we like the arm lock, so we aren't going to teach anyone the arm lock so they won't be able to escape it. That'd be like Eddie showing people the twister but never talking about the truck...its like yea, I can see how ur doin that, but how the fuck did u get there?!?
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