Invisible Collar Question

[Ramone (RAM) Codrington]

Cheers jason makes a lot of sense.

[Jonathan Wylie]

That's right Ben, I slide my arm out of the collar while in IC, tight straight leg curls, if i have both of his arms trapped and pull down on the head I think it would cut off blood on both sides. I practiced it a couple of times but wasn't sure if it made sense. thanks for any advice you guys have given.

if your in Ic and you pull your forearm out you have what is called CLOSED GUARD and to my knowledge that has never submited anybody in the history of jiu jitsu.

[Jason Hyatt]

That's right Ben, I slide my arm out of the collar while in IC, tight straight leg curls, if i have both of his arms trapped and pull down on the head I think it would cut off blood on both sides. I practiced it a couple of times but wasn't sure if it made sense. thanks for any advice you guys have given.

If you're pulling your right arm out, you're not in IC anymore. That right arm is critical to the IC submission. Without the pressure on the neck and collarbone you don't have a submission and the right arm assists the squeeze. The only time you'd take your arm out is when you're transitioning to something else because he didn't tap from the IC (e.g. East Coast croc, Jellyfish, etc.).

[Jason Hyatt]

if your in Ic and you pull your forearm out you have what is called CLOSED GUARD and to my knowledge that has never submited anybody in the history of jiu jitsu.

So am I a dick for chuckling heartily when I read that?

[Bruce.Porcelli]

thanks 4 everyone's feedback, i only got to experiment with it a few times and one cat said he couldn't speak cause it was so tight. I flow through the original MRG book and DVD like it's gospel, and experiment with different shit now an again. I'm like an infant again just learning the proper way to speak, and look to you guys for guidance! Especially without proper instruction. )

[Eddie Bravo]

I'm gonna need to see video