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    Quote Originally Posted by CurtisHembroff View Post
    I found it on Wikipedia man.
    I understand that I think the person who made it actually posted it on the forum already.
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    I've always wondered why there are primary and secondary routes for the Twister flow chat, but not the Rubber Guard one. Wouldn't [Mission Control->New York->Chill Dog->Invisible Collar->Jiu Claw] be the primary route?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie View Post
    Why do you need them online when they're in the books? This is published material he makes money off it why would it be online for free?
    which books?
    Unleashed and mastering the rubber guard don't have a quick reference flow chart like these, at least my copy's don't.
    I like how they dont have much on them. its like go here, now what can you do? now go here what are you options?... People learn lots of ways its just another tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffington View Post
    which books?
    Unleashed and mastering the rubber guard don't have a quick reference flow chart like these, at least my copy's don't.
    I like how they dont have much on them. its like go here, now what can you do? now go here what are you options?... People learn lots of ways its just another tool.
    My copy of mtrg and mtt both have a flow chart in the front with all the positions mapped out and and under each position it has options for transitions and submissions with the page number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie View Post
    My copy of mtrg and mtt both have a flow chart in the front with all the positions mapped out and and under each position it has options for transitions and submissions with the page number.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie View Post
    My copy of mtrg and mtt both have a flow chart in the front with all the positions mapped out and and under each position it has options for transitions and submissions with the page number.
    +1

    The way the techniques flow together is what makes the system a SYSTEM. That's what we're always trying to get across to the haters. 10th Planet is NOT just a few techniques with quirky names that require some flexibility. It's a system of options that flow and transition between each other.

    Eddie has said a million times that no technique works 100% of the time. Most have very low percentages. The 10th Planet system is all about raising those percentages within a no-gi context -- where those numbers are the worst. The reason it works is because of the way everything interconnects. THAT'S what makes 10PJJ so revolutionary. There are damn few "dead ends". If you're stuck, it's because you don't know the path well enough. The flow charts in the books are the key to understanding the whole thing. They're not just a table of contents. That's your whole game on two pages right there. That's your route to a black belt. Knowing a thousand techniques is meaningless if you can't get there. You've got to have set-ups and options and know how they all fit.

    I'm with you Jon; these are Eddie's creations. He owns them and what they represent and they are part of how he makes his living. If we respect and support him, we'll purchase and use the ones HE created.

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    ^^^^^ buy the books

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    guess im a retard ( I thought I would be stronger ) I flipped right past it 20 times last night. I went through the back of the book with all the pictures over and over. Soon as I came back here after a good nights sleep i open right to it.

    If there was a poster people could buy made by Eddie it would sell out repeatedly forsure. The nature of the Wiki site is to inform and is not about ripping off intellectual property. I shared these with two people that were so anti weed that they dissed the whole system. But the wiki page really opened their eyes.

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