Since we have some Christian threads circulating, I figured I'd post a question....

[Joshua Jarboe]

Now you're insulting me. I make my bread and butter from logic. Don't insult my intelligence and don't try to make this a logic battle, you won't like the result.

[jeffrey]

As someone who spent many years in bible study classes throughout elementary, middle, and high school, I can say that 'blasphemy of the holy spirit' is a difficult sin to commit. Someone who believes that Jesus performed miracles through the powers of satan, commits blasphemy. Some christians believe that you actually needed to witness the miracles and then believe that Jesus was using satanic powers. So atheists and agnostics need not worry about this sin... or any sin for that matter.

[Taylor Culbertson]

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[derrick ikwueme]

Now you're insulting me. I make my bread and butter from logic. Don't insult my intelligence and don't try to make this a logic battle, you won't like the result.

" Angry & Defensive " I rest my case.

[Jared Gammel]

Not so. I just think a lot of people in a given religion know too little about their own religion and FAR too little about everybody else's. Nice try at the parting shot though.

Moreover, I'm willing to bet that most evolutionary atheists know jack about evolution.

People don't care. There's no dialog, why would you need to know this stuff?

I disagree.. Why would you think atheists would have knowledge of religions and not of science??? Atheists don't believe religious theology and are more knowledgeable than those who do.. Obviously atheists are more knowledgeable in the sciences than religious people. Christians can't even figure out their own beliefs let alone what is real. It has been shown through various studies in the past that atheists are the most educated people in society.

Shape those facts however you please. It wasn't a parting shot either, just my opinion. Which happens to be that most religious people aren't objective thinkers.

[Joshua Jarboe]

" Angry & Defensive " I rest my case.

That wasn't logic Derrick and no one here is fooled. You're insulting me instead of dialoging about ideas, engaging in parthian tactics expecting that at some point I'll either look foolish chasing you around or that I'll give up and look stupid. I've dealt with people like you before. You're a bully and you've got nothing to say. So back down.

I disagree.. Why would you think atheists would have knowledge of religions and not of science??? ....
Shape those facts however you please. It wasn't a parting shot either, just my opinion. Which happens to be that most religious people aren't objective thinkers.

I think most atheists have little knowledge of science and religion because I've talked to quite a number of them. And I think that most religious people aren't any better for the same reason. There's lots of posturing, lots of appeals to emotion, lots of insults (see above), very little intelligent discourse.

[Taylor Culbertson]

[Joshua Jarboe]

..ok that's pretty funny.

[Jared Gammel]

That wasn't logic Derrick and no one here is fooled. You're insulting me instead of dialoging about ideas, engaging in parthian tactics expecting that at some point I'll either look foolish chasing you around or that I'll give up and look stupid. I've dealt with people like you before. You're a bully and you've got nothing to say. So back down.



I think most atheists have little knowledge of science and religion because I've talked to quite a number of them. And I think that most religious people aren't any better for the same reason. There's lots of posturing, lots of appeals to emotion, lots of insults (see above), very little intelligent discourse.

I agree. People need to talk more. There are stupid people in every denomination. However, I feel that most the lack of intelligent discourse comes from the religious viewpoints inability to relay anything demonstrating valid evidence.. Then in some cases blatantly denying scientific discovery. It's a frustrating position for an atheist.

I mean I'm not an atheist because it's what I was raised or what I think is cool.. I'm an atheist because it makes the most sense to me. I'm willing to listen to people who want to explain why religion makes more sense to them, but I'm usually left questioning their mental fortitude.

[Joshua Jarboe]

Oh we can. We've got arguments and evidence and some of it isn't phrased by nutjobs. But it's boring and difficult. So boring and difficult, our own sheep aren't interested.

Walking through the cosmological argument is bad enough, walking through a formally expressed cosmological argument (which can get you around some of the logical objections to the way it has been historically expressed), a conversation in which you have to explain why an infinite causal chain cannot be traversed...is hard. And boring. You have better things to do. You want to talk for a long time about entropy and the expansion of the universe and blah blah blah? We can. You probably don't want to.

And I'm pretty sure if I did I'd get booted off this forum for proselytizing. And I can't say I'd blame the mods for doing so. I don't want people spamming this forum with propaganda from my local Church of Latterday Saints for crying out loud...