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    Quote Originally Posted by josh sullivan View Post
    Good point at a high level I'm sure it's encouraged by certain organizations! I'm 35 been training for 12 yrs in bjj and hasn't crossed my mind to use but everyone's different bra! I'm not super high level but I do believe good cardio goes a long way!
    LOL. Yeah, when I read "Rampage juiced" my first thought was, why didn't he use a steroid for endurance then? Hahaha. Good cardio WILL take you a long way. But at the top levels, athleticism makes a huge difference. It's a different game now. I mean, look at BJ Penn. Prodigy. Black belt in 2 years. Great fighter. Great technique. He just can't keep up with the athleticism of these guys anymore.

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    Yes I concur it is a whole new level and just think in 10 yrs! Crazy

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    This is something that naturally happens to all males. I mean all males. Your testosterone levels go down. There is no set age for this to happen. It could happen when your in your twenties, thirties, or in your forties. If you and your doctor are staying in the normal levels its not cheating. But like everything, taking in excess is the problem.

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    I guess if we agree that the levels can't be above a certain point (what is natural for a 25 year old, say), then perhaps fighters should be allowed to compensate for loss of testosterone.

    And I'm sure we're all grateful for Rampage's newfound sexual stamina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Rosado View Post
    Call me crazy, but I don't consider legitimate TRT to be juicing.
    Lol neither do I. People are saying Chael was a cheater when he was doing the exact sme thing. His levels were barely above acceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Stager View Post
    I guess if we agree that the levels can't be above a certain point (what is natural for a 25 year old, say), then perhaps fighters should be allowed to compensate for loss of testosterone.

    And I'm sure we're all grateful for Rampage's newfound sexual stamina.

    lmfao dude you just made me laugh out loud at my desk like an idiot.

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