This old chestnut...Points made by coach about why you need to train the Gi
''But if you have a look at the current ufc champions, and see how many are black belts with gi! If you want to understand jiu jitsu you must train with the gi! You can take the gi off coming up to a fight, but you can't fully appreciate or excel with jiu jitsu if you don't train in the gi! How many tournaments has Bravo won, or his students? Have they ever won ADCC or the UFC? If training without the gi was better surely they'd clean up in no gi competitions? All the current ADCC champions fight and train in the gi, Brauilo didn't start no gi till he was a brown belt and Roger till he was a black belt!''
''I think you miss understood Rogers statement? (statement of his saying 80% bjj is useless in mma) Training with the gi makes you technically better, you have to work much harder on the correct positioning and technique to escape! You understand the positions better and you don't lose that when you take the gi off! I have seen for so many years that people who don't train with the gi, rely heavily on their psychical attributes (strength and speed) to fight. It's much easier to escape if you're sweating and you're stronger and fitter than the other guy! But if you have the technical knowledge to put behind that, you will be a better fighter. I have watched a lot of so called mma fighters walk through the doors of the gym over the years. Very few of them would stay after being schooled by guy's in our club who all learned in the gi! (I'm referring to no gi class as well as gi)''
''If you make jiu jitsu your art you must learn in the gi to understand it fully! The honest truth is that those who hate the gi, are simply not good enough to compete with it on and make up all this shit. Eddie Bravo is a perfect example he could not make the grade at the top level, so to stand out he started this crap about nogi. But he still trains in the gi himself, as does his pal joe rogan. He has never produced any major champions in either nogi or mma. It's all a spin to make him money and fame, and the reason the gi schools are so successful and have been around so long is because they're better! They all take the gi off to train specifically for adcc or mma for short periods before a fight, then return to the gi to learn the art better. The fact that every major champ in the modern game, of either adcc or mma trains in the gi speaks for itself!''
Thoughts and opinions?
I'm of the opinion if you only want to compete in MMA or NoGi grappling then wearing a gi is pointless, just seems common sense to me. If going to gi classes helps you get in more grappling hours then yeah definitely do it as it will translate to an extent...but saying doing nogi bjj alone wont make as good at nogi bjj than if you have trained gi bjj as well seems odd to me (assuming your getting in the same hours of training). And when talking about defending against punches etc then the gi seems TOTALLY pointless
''But if you have a look at the current ufc champions, and see how many are black belts with gi! If you want to understand jiu jitsu you must train with the gi! You can take the gi off coming up to a fight, but you can't fully appreciate or excel with jiu jitsu if you don't train in the gi! How many tournaments has Bravo won, or his students? Have they ever won ADCC or the UFC? If training without the gi was better surely they'd clean up in no gi competitions? All the current ADCC champions fight and train in the gi, Brauilo didn't start no gi till he was a brown belt and Roger till he was a black belt!''
''I think you miss understood Rogers statement? (statement of his saying 80% bjj is useless in mma) Training with the gi makes you technically better, you have to work much harder on the correct positioning and technique to escape! You understand the positions better and you don't lose that when you take the gi off! I have seen for so many years that people who don't train with the gi, rely heavily on their psychical attributes (strength and speed) to fight. It's much easier to escape if you're sweating and you're stronger and fitter than the other guy! But if you have the technical knowledge to put behind that, you will be a better fighter. I have watched a lot of so called mma fighters walk through the doors of the gym over the years. Very few of them would stay after being schooled by guy's in our club who all learned in the gi! (I'm referring to no gi class as well as gi)''
''If you make jiu jitsu your art you must learn in the gi to understand it fully! The honest truth is that those who hate the gi, are simply not good enough to compete with it on and make up all this shit. Eddie Bravo is a perfect example he could not make the grade at the top level, so to stand out he started this crap about nogi. But he still trains in the gi himself, as does his pal joe rogan. He has never produced any major champions in either nogi or mma. It's all a spin to make him money and fame, and the reason the gi schools are so successful and have been around so long is because they're better! They all take the gi off to train specifically for adcc or mma for short periods before a fight, then return to the gi to learn the art better. The fact that every major champ in the modern game, of either adcc or mma trains in the gi speaks for itself!''
Thoughts and opinions?
I'm of the opinion if you only want to compete in MMA or NoGi grappling then wearing a gi is pointless, just seems common sense to me. If going to gi classes helps you get in more grappling hours then yeah definitely do it as it will translate to an extent...but saying doing nogi bjj alone wont make as good at nogi bjj than if you have trained gi bjj as well seems odd to me (assuming your getting in the same hours of training). And when talking about defending against punches etc then the gi seems TOTALLY pointless
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