Rubber guard on larger guys?

[Tszkwong]

Hey guys, how do you pull off a rubber guard on a larger guy? Like, when their shoulders are wide, or they're just really big people.
I feel like forcing a rubber guard by pulling my ankle towards me would just bust my knee.

Thanks

[Craig Murray]

I've heard Eddie say that if they are too big you have to skip steps. Look for free NY, free Chill Dog, and flying kung fus. Of course the best option against a big guy is get on top and stay there.

[Mojoplata]

God I got smashed last night by a big ole boy. I usually rush to omo as quick as possible to try and sweep for top

[Chris Herzog]

You have to angle your hips, don't stay flat on your back. Angling should remove the stress on your knee.

[William Schrimsher]

I've had some success arm dragging one elbow in, and then starting from there.

[Tori Applegate]

I agree with Chris, to be more specific, get them to the side of you. There are two main angles in RG, the meathook angle and the arm bar angle, I personally choose the meathook angle for most bigger opponents. That's a personal choice. Like Chris said, its about getting the angle. I just really like how when you point your knee down in meathook and then have your arm to reinforce that, just the game that comes from there.

[BradEdmondson]

I agree with Chris, to be more specific, get them to the side of you. There are two main angles in RG, the meathook angle and the arm bar angle, I personally choose the meathook angle for most bigger opponents. That's a personal choice. Like Chris said, its about getting the angle. I just really like how when you point your knee down in meathook and then have your arm to reinforce that, just the game that comes from there.

I really like this, the idea of two angles is a great way of putting it. Brandon from 10P Decatur has some excellent excellent videos for engaging the hips and the basic idea of a rubber guard strategy and those are both amazing. Something talking a little more about the angle could help guys I think but the "Improve your Rubber Guard instantly with this simple strategy" video shows it a good bit. Wish I could link the video but think it's FB only. When I started playing rubber guard I had to figure out a lot of details and all on my own so I kinda had to look at regular closed guard basics I was taught and apply them to rubber guard and if I'd had these earlier on it definitely would have helped me out a little I think. Though I was probably missing all kinds of sources of info back then, I was new and didn't know what all was out there.

[Brandon Mccaghren]

Try this link and see if it works for you guys. It goes to the 10th Planet Decatur Facebook page. This is the video Brad referenced.

https://www.facebook.com/10thplanetd...6604902691911/

[kevinculp]

How do you keep them from stacking and driving their head toward your head to kill the omoplata option?

[BradEdmondson]

How do you keep them from stacking and driving their head toward your head to kill the omoplata option?

Are you getting to chill dog? If so then the frame just needs to be real solid, if not and you can't get there because they're too tight I think attack the far arm for armbar set ups or switch to a butterfly guard. That's what I'm doing. You can see it in Brandon's video above which is just excellent.