Lockdown in the Gi

[Joshua Jarboe]

Hello all,

So, I'm still focusing on improving my lockdown. I usually do pretty well against students of my caliber but against big dudes or blue belts+ my skills or strength are insufficient, especially in the gi.

I feel like my attempts to whip up are being blocked, possibly by my opponent grabbing cloth. It's more difficult to hit the electric chair as well.

Can anyone offer pointers about how, in your experience, playing the Lockdown is different in the Gi? Are there sweeps that work better in the Gi? Should I just try to get to full guard?

If you're playing lockdown in the gi, what's working for you? What's not working for you? Do you have tips on how to get a lockdown sweep on someone who has 50% more mass than you?

I'm trying to figure out where the game is just different in the gi and where my skills are simply deficient. I have a funny feeling that the 5-0 or mechanic sweeps might work great in the gi.

[David Ogg]

I don't wear the gi but do wear gi pants occasionally and find my lockdown is super tight with it.

Though, as we don't train in the gi, very few guys think about reaching for the pants to prevent a transition.

[Amber Kamischke]

Hello all,

So, I'm still focusing on improving my lockdown. I usually do pretty well against students of my caliber but against big dudes or blue belts+ my skills or strength are insufficient, especially in the gi.

I feel like my attempts to whip up are being blocked, possibly by my opponent grabbing cloth. It's more difficult to hit the electric chair as well.

Can anyone offer pointers about how, in your experience, playing the Lockdown is different in the Gi? Are there sweeps that work better in the Gi? Should I just try to get to full guard?

If you're playing lockdown in the gi, what's working for you? What's not working for you? Do you have tips on how to get a lockdown sweep on someone who has 50% more mass than you?

I'm trying to figure out where the game is just different in the gi and where my skills are simply deficient. I have a funny feeling that the 5-0 or mechanic sweeps might work great in the gi.

When I compete in the gi, I have the same problem. They grab my gi when they have head and arm, preventing me to whip up since I can't physically turn my upper body. I was told to try the stomp series and go to butterfly in those situations since you can do it with over/under. You can then go to full guard or the multitude of butterfly sweeps from there.

[marc luu]

i feel like lockdown is easier with a gi, for one you have better leg grips. and when i'm going for the electric chair sweep, i can pull on their jacket better. maintaining the underhook is also easier.

how exactly are they blocking you?

my biggest problem with lockdown is, (gi AND no gi) when they tuck their calf under their butt. but besides that, when i have the lockdown in, and i have that left underhook, i'm pretty much set, even with higher belts. but higher belts know what i'm going for and tuck their calf in.

[Joshua Jarboe]

When I compete in the gi, I have the same problem. They grab my gi when they have head and arm, preventing me to whip up since I can't physically turn my upper body. I was told to try the stomp series and go to butterfly in those situations since you can do it with over/under. You can then go to full guard or the multitude of butterfly sweeps from there.

I find the jaws of life still works. They can hold on to my gi if they want to, I'll just torque their head until they let go. I can usually get crappy double underhooks and whip a bit for better double underhooks. But I can't whip up to dogfight. Might be that my skills are not good enough.

Which is too bad. I'm told girls will only date boys who have skills.

I'm wondering if I could use gi grips to get to dogfight by attrition....

[Joshua Jarboe]

i feel like lockdown is easier with a gi, for one you have better leg grips. and when i'm going for the electric chair sweep, i can pull on their jacket better. maintaining the underhook is also easier.

how exactly are they blocking you?

my biggest problem with lockdown is, (gi AND no gi) when they tuck their calf under their butt. but besides that, when i have the lockdown in, and i have that left underhook, i'm pretty much set, even with higher belts. but higher belts know what i'm going for and tuck their calf in.

When I switch from double-unders to getting ready to whip (pushing up on the ribs / chest) they grab cloth and go heavy. After I fail, they usually immediately attempt to attack an arm (and I suspect that my sleeves make their arm attacks a little more powerful).

When I used to go for the electric chair, I used to just grab their leg with two arms and I was having some success there. I wonder if that might be better in the gi than electric underhooks (but maybe I'm just not doing stuff right).

Anybody trying 5-0 or Mechanic in the Gi like a G?

[.BB.]

have you looked at the whip down?
a recent mts goes over it

[Eddie Bravo]

I wish I could answer your questions but I havnt trained in a gi in so long, I forget what works and what doesn't in the gi

[Paul McKeown]

The only time I have trouble hitting anything from lockdown is they've postured up enough to grab my far side collar (when I'm on my side) and they use that grip to pin me to the mat and start working a collar choke but getting good tight double unders helps negate this

[Paul McKeown]

i feel like lockdown is easier with a gi, for one you have better leg grips. and when i'm going for the electric chair sweep, i can pull on their jacket better. maintaining the underhook is also easier.

how exactly are they blocking you?

my biggest problem with lockdown is, (gi AND no gi) when they tuck their calf under their butt. but besides that, when i have the lockdown in, and i have that left underhook, i'm pretty much set, even with higher belts. but higher belts know what i'm going for and tuck their calf in.

Them tucking their leg under their ass doesnt ever bother me really because to pass he has to un-do this to work a pass at which point I can get my lockdown and I've got pretty decent at being able to bring my outside leg in and use it as well as hip bumping to hook the leg out and get lockdown, this is all strictly grappling mind