We have had guys compete in Hatcher's tournament the last 2 years. It is a small tournament and seems to be getting smaller each year. It is by far the worst to compete in if you want to do No-Gi. We had a guy compete last year, and he had no one in his division. Hatcher told him, he could face a guy that was 20 pounds heavier than him or just go home without a refund. So we don't even waste our time with his tournaments anymore.