Alan Belcher challenges Rousimar Palhares to a Metamoris match

[Jonathan Wylie]

Daaaam, I wonder if he would snap something on purpose if he cought him?

[AKRhino]

Daaaam, I wonder if he would snap something on purpose if he cought him?

I sincerely hope not.

[BIBIANO]

Don't let that fool you. Belchers school is about 2 hours from mine I can tell you he balls out. He is definitely trying to get some of that metamoris money too. These guys aren't struggling in the least.

True, I think the problem is long term income, I doubt he has health care benefits once he retires in MMA/Jiu Jitsu but the 401K plan probably isn't bad

[sean applegate]

Making over a mill a year on your school alone is incredible. He was a font guy for Lloyd's MMA millionaire program. He may not save money for retirement though. I guess people do tend to live up to their income.

[Sam Sales]

Making over a mill a year on your school alone is incredible. He was a font guy for Lloyd's MMA millionaire program. He may not save money for retirement though. I guess people do tend to live up to their income.

Thing is most of those guys (Lloyd and his whipping boys like Belcher, Avellan & co), all claim/make it look like they are earning or own way more money than they really do. Its half of their 'sales pitch' to bring other dummy school owners into their circle. They act like 'playas' or 'ballers' or whatever bullshite Lloyd likes to call them, but in truth they are no better off than your average school owner. When Belcher is done with fighting he will have nothing. Except maybe some huge bills from the IRS if Lloyds track record is anything to go on. Yep thats right dumb Lloyd lovers, why do you take financial and marketing advice from someone who is in the hole with the IRS? He owes them loads, AND everyone hates his style of marketing/spamming anyway. I will take my advice from real SUCCESSFUL people thanks. Not a dumb fake gangsta predatory power hungry fraudulent piece of total rapist shit like Lloyd Irvin. Not beating around the bush but honestly, those people still down with Lloyd are some of the weakest character dumb ass mother fuckers on the earth.

*weekly anti Lloyd rant haha

[sean applegate]

Alan's a good guy. His school is exactly as successful as he says it is. I've seen it. Its only a couple hours from mine and there are guys who cross train with us from his school. You can't blame him for wanting to make a better life for him and his family.

[Sam Sales]

Honestly this Lloyd Irvin fiasco is a huge part of what just completely killed my passion for jiu jitsu. I could never understand why our community would STILL continue to let such a bad person prosper. They jumped all over the scumbag Hermes Franca for similar stuff, however Hermes wasn't lining their pockets. Just went to show me that money basically brought Lloyd out of trouble with the jiu jitsu community. Is that what we are like?
I mean its a VERY political community anyway, always shit going on in some camp or other, but this is a whole new level of scumbaggery we should have jumped all over. The fact TLI continues, and continues to run kids programs is sickening and quite frankly embarrassing.

We take our cues from our instructors/black belts etc, but they all said nothing (apart from Ryan Hall and a couple of others). I can 100% see why Ryan left jiu jitsu. What kind of example does that set?

So many think they are going to be rich jiu jitsu instructors, when in truth their are very few Eddie Bravo's, if any, other than ours. Guys that are really doing well for themselves with jiu jitsu. 98% of your average non multiple world champion jj instructors are living on the breadline. Struggling to make ends meat, make the rent each month etc. Trying to sell t-shirts and stuff constantly just to keep on top of things. So paying Lloyd $5000+ per year for his much hated cheap and nasty marketing techniques will not change that. In fact it will likely hurt it. That 5Gs is a huge chunk out of your rent etc.

In the future (next 10 years or so) unless you are a multiple time world or at least national champion black belt teaching your academy, it likely simply won't survive/do more than break even. So last thing guys need is to be misled into forking out a bunch of coin to Lloyd and his merry sheep for info you can find for free anywhere online, if you can be bothered to look for a second.

[Kurzy]

Well Dana banned Palhares from UFC so he might be looking at other avenues now....

[Sam Sales]

Well Dana banned Palhares from UFC so he might be looking at other avenues now....

Probably end up at WSOF. Bjork has already said Bellator are not interested. I think they are probably going after Okami though.

[ScottRay]

If Belcher wins I dread to think how many 'top secret' jiu jitsu 'systems' he will come up with for him and his affiliate marketing pals to spam the shit outta everyone

I'm fairly anti Alan belchar. He had the audacity to belt a student of ours (10p bmt) that went to a seminar there. Gi seminar, our student borrowed the gi to do the class, couldn't even tie his belt... They didn't even roll at this seminar and he has still never rolled in the gi.... But they gave him a blue belt. Not cool.