Side control escape to taking the back question

[Paul Bar]

Hi, there is a move that (I believe) is called "B Smith". I tried searching for it but had a hard time finding anything via search because of the more common name. This is a move where from side control bottom you swim your outside hand under their hip (similar to the ghost) and then push on their hips with both hands to get some space in north south position and then roll backwards over your shoulders to get your hooks in and take their back. It's an awesome move that I really like but half the time I end up fighting off a North/South choke or they switch to the opposite side control and somehow scoop one of my arms into my throat for an arm triangle. Any tips for something to do to avoid these two outcomes so there isn't such a big downside to trying it on someone?

[Gary Meek]

Warmups C3:

[Gary Meek]

As you can see, the B Smith is from N/S...so you have to keep them off balance as you attack it, or yes, they will settle in and get the choke or change positions. So during your side control escape attempt to B Smith, you might be putting yourself into a choke as opposed to executing it from N/S and keeping their posture controlled.

[Dylan Ehrnreiter]

The standard B Smith takes you to lockdown half from N/S. There is an old video of Eddie backstage at ADCC trading techniques, and a guy shows him a ver B Smith-esque technique from bottom side. Start at 2:00

[Pan]

Has this half guard escape been legitimised or otherwise since 2003?

[Gary Meek]

In the vid, they are starting from half guard, but still interesting starting position. I like to pull off the crucifix from bottom side in a very similar fashion...thanks for pulling this one out of the archive!

[Dylan Ehrnreiter]

In the vid, they are starting from half guard, but still interesting starting position. I like to pull off the crucifix from bottom side in a very similar fashion...thanks for pulling this one out of the archive!

Halfguard, my bad. Herp derp.

[Paul Bar]

The standard B Smith takes you to lockdown half from N/S. There is an old video of Eddie backstage at ADCC trading techniques, and a guy shows him a ver B Smith-esque technique from bottom side. Start at 2:00

Oh, this is cool. So I could go for the quarter guard to lockdown (first half of the ghost where you swim under and try to trap their legs with yours), try this move from there and also try this move straight from half guard lock down... Nice, I'll try some of these out, thanks!

[Paul Bar]

Has this half guard escape been legitimised or otherwise since 2003?

I'd be interested in this info as well or if someone knows of a competition video where someone is using it that would be good too.

[Paul Bar]

As you can see, the B Smith is from N/S...so you have to keep them off balance as you attack it, or yes, they will settle in and get the choke or change positions. So during your side control escape attempt to B Smith, you might be putting yourself into a choke as opposed to executing it from N/S and keeping their posture controlled.

How would you suggest controlling someone's posture from bottom side control or north south? Pulling their head down?