Heres my argument with some random dude over youtube. I know it's immature but sometimes I just can't help myself.
On the Rickson Gracie vs Hugo Duarte video:
Him:
That slap was slow and sloppy but the bum he slapped didnt see it comin even though he knew it was, then,favorite bjj move= dive head first towards knees, I cant tell you how many times that shit fails, on the street bjj aint shit, what you gunna do when I start bombing with a sapp, or pull out a 12 inch razor sharp blade ??? If you wanna learn to wrestle bjj is great, Rickson is good but can he take down a bull?? I doubt it, look up sosai masutatsu 10 dan, he could, but Karate aint shit huh lol
Me:
lol. Dive head first towards the knees? It's called taking a shot. Oh really you can't tell me how many times that fails? Yes you sound like a real expert. Bombing with a Sapp? You mean Bob Sapp that huge ripped black guy?
aparrently you've never seen this
/watch?v=Hfu2owTc_6c&feature=r*elated
or this
/watch?v=XqP3-AYVo_o
knife?
/watch?v=qNEZS_wBFt8
helio gracie was a knife specialist.
do some research before polluting the internet with ignorance.
Him:
no not bob sapp and dont get but hurt , I never said bjj sucks and its hard to leave an opinion without someone taking offense to it, that taking a shot shit has never worked on me, its called footwork , and bjj aint got none, and I was just saying these guys even helio are not weapons experts and ive seen that video, tank abbot has no where near the skill of rickson and he beat that same guy twice as fast with just power, not dissing rickson or gracies, bjj is good for ground only
Me:
Wow he beat hugo duarte, awesome. How many times did he get submitted with BJJ? That's right 5 times(lol although now that I think about it though Frye, Yoshida and Taktarov were technically judo). Footwork doesen't mean shit if you get taken down. You might not need to know BJJ but if you're in a fight you sure as hell better know some kind of grappling art or you're gonna get raped. 62% of fights end up on the ground. Yes Helio gracie was a weapons expert where do you think all the weapon disarms in GJJ come from?Ya no shit bjj is good for ground only it's grappling.
Him:
not tryin to argue dude but your full of shit
Me:
Really? How exactly? Tank Abbot lost to Taktarov, Don Frye, Mir, Leopold, and Yoshida by submission. 5 times. In the article going to the ground: lessons from law enforcement, written by Chris Leblanc it's stated that 62% of LAPD altercations in 1988 ended with the fight going to the ground.
In this video
/watch?v=qNEZS_wBFt8
at 1:53 they state that Helio gracie was a knife specialist.
so how exactly am I full of shit? That's what I thought.
Him:
exactly my point, tank lost more than he won, and as for your videos, bob sapp is a big pussy like brock lesner, I can take a bigger punch than either of em, 2nd those two queers are far from knife experts, they say they are experts because grandpa was one, well the gracie family also says helio is undefeated which is a lie, the only undefeated Gracie is Rickson and his dead uncle, and YES most fights do go down to the ground so..... dont get tackled, learn the holes in the system, lol
Me:
lol you lost all credibility when you said brock lesnar is a pussy. And then after that you said the gracie family said helio was undefeated which they have never said, in fact they named the kimura in honor of the guy who beat helio with that exact submission. So now I know you are just making shit up.
and for the last time it's called a shot. tackling is for football. If you're gonna argue about martial arts at least be educated in the subject.
Him:
IT WAS IN BLACK BELT MAGAZINE ASSHOLE AND I GUARANTEE I COULD BEAT YOU IN A GRAPPLING MATCH SO FUCK YOURSELF WITH YOUR ROLLING AROUND ON THE GROUND BULLSHIT CAGEFIGHTER PUSSY, CONTROLLED ENVIROMENT SPORTFIGHT PUSSY, YOU WOULDT EVEN MAKE IT THAT FAR WITH ME DICKHEAD WANNABE, THOSE TWO BRAZILIAN QUEERS IN YA VID YOU REFERED WOULD GET THERE FUCKIN SCRAWNY HEADS TORE OFF IN MY HOOD DONT WORRY MY CREDIBILITY IS JUST FINE ESPECIALLY ON THE STREETS, ID CHOKE YOU WITH 50 DIFFERENT CHOKES FAG
Me:
hahahaha ok keyboard warrior. I doubt you could choke anyone out considering you think taking a shot is "tackling someone".
On the Rickson Gracie vs Hugo Duarte video:
Him:
That slap was slow and sloppy but the bum he slapped didnt see it comin even though he knew it was, then,favorite bjj move= dive head first towards knees, I cant tell you how many times that shit fails, on the street bjj aint shit, what you gunna do when I start bombing with a sapp, or pull out a 12 inch razor sharp blade ??? If you wanna learn to wrestle bjj is great, Rickson is good but can he take down a bull?? I doubt it, look up sosai masutatsu 10 dan, he could, but Karate aint shit huh lol
Me:
lol. Dive head first towards the knees? It's called taking a shot. Oh really you can't tell me how many times that fails? Yes you sound like a real expert. Bombing with a Sapp? You mean Bob Sapp that huge ripped black guy?
aparrently you've never seen this
/watch?v=Hfu2owTc_6c&feature=r*elated
or this
/watch?v=XqP3-AYVo_o
knife?
/watch?v=qNEZS_wBFt8
helio gracie was a knife specialist.
do some research before polluting the internet with ignorance.
Him:
no not bob sapp and dont get but hurt , I never said bjj sucks and its hard to leave an opinion without someone taking offense to it, that taking a shot shit has never worked on me, its called footwork , and bjj aint got none, and I was just saying these guys even helio are not weapons experts and ive seen that video, tank abbot has no where near the skill of rickson and he beat that same guy twice as fast with just power, not dissing rickson or gracies, bjj is good for ground only
Me:
Wow he beat hugo duarte, awesome. How many times did he get submitted with BJJ? That's right 5 times(lol although now that I think about it though Frye, Yoshida and Taktarov were technically judo). Footwork doesen't mean shit if you get taken down. You might not need to know BJJ but if you're in a fight you sure as hell better know some kind of grappling art or you're gonna get raped. 62% of fights end up on the ground. Yes Helio gracie was a weapons expert where do you think all the weapon disarms in GJJ come from?Ya no shit bjj is good for ground only it's grappling.
Him:
not tryin to argue dude but your full of shit
Me:
Really? How exactly? Tank Abbot lost to Taktarov, Don Frye, Mir, Leopold, and Yoshida by submission. 5 times. In the article going to the ground: lessons from law enforcement, written by Chris Leblanc it's stated that 62% of LAPD altercations in 1988 ended with the fight going to the ground.
In this video
/watch?v=qNEZS_wBFt8
at 1:53 they state that Helio gracie was a knife specialist.
so how exactly am I full of shit? That's what I thought.
Him:
exactly my point, tank lost more than he won, and as for your videos, bob sapp is a big pussy like brock lesner, I can take a bigger punch than either of em, 2nd those two queers are far from knife experts, they say they are experts because grandpa was one, well the gracie family also says helio is undefeated which is a lie, the only undefeated Gracie is Rickson and his dead uncle, and YES most fights do go down to the ground so..... dont get tackled, learn the holes in the system, lol
Me:
lol you lost all credibility when you said brock lesnar is a pussy. And then after that you said the gracie family said helio was undefeated which they have never said, in fact they named the kimura in honor of the guy who beat helio with that exact submission. So now I know you are just making shit up.
and for the last time it's called a shot. tackling is for football. If you're gonna argue about martial arts at least be educated in the subject.
Him:
IT WAS IN BLACK BELT MAGAZINE ASSHOLE AND I GUARANTEE I COULD BEAT YOU IN A GRAPPLING MATCH SO FUCK YOURSELF WITH YOUR ROLLING AROUND ON THE GROUND BULLSHIT CAGEFIGHTER PUSSY, CONTROLLED ENVIROMENT SPORTFIGHT PUSSY, YOU WOULDT EVEN MAKE IT THAT FAR WITH ME DICKHEAD WANNABE, THOSE TWO BRAZILIAN QUEERS IN YA VID YOU REFERED WOULD GET THERE FUCKIN SCRAWNY HEADS TORE OFF IN MY HOOD DONT WORRY MY CREDIBILITY IS JUST FINE ESPECIALLY ON THE STREETS, ID CHOKE YOU WITH 50 DIFFERENT CHOKES FAG
Me:
hahahaha ok keyboard warrior. I doubt you could choke anyone out considering you think taking a shot is "tackling someone".
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