DLR for no Gi

[Andrew Sarasin]

Anyone got some good vids for no gi DLR? Are there any that you think don't work or are very low percentage at working without the gi vs with the gi?

like what about this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ZRVabUcIY

[Andrew Sarasin]

Any info about DLR and reverse DLR would be great, like what works better for no gi ect. Your responses are always great, thx in advance!

[Sean Gamble]

Ball & Chain is legit. Its also reasonably easy to stand up to a single and works well no gi. The hardest thing in no gi is the lack of grips, so you have to stomp their far leg at the thigh with your non hooking leg to make them post on the floor in order to get wrist control. John Frankl has a good SBGi DVD on the DLR for MMA, Mario Sperry also covers it a lot on his Vale Tudo tapes. I have some gifs I can post up in a bit.

[Sean Gamble]

RDLR is definitely easier for no gi and is far more common.

[Sean Gamble]

This is the far leg stomp I was talking about, obviously in one of the gifs he already has wrist control, but its the same concept.
http://oi57.tinypic.com/2j2b98p.jpg
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2rhpkxg.jpg

Ignore the punches, but when the try press your hook down you can get the wrist.
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2mxrdbq.jpg

If you fail to get wrist control you can granby to 50/50 or sit up on a single (again the knee push here can help off balance and create space first).
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2zpil4i.jpg
http://oi61.tinypic.com/20us7cw.jpg

Anytime you get the far wrist, stomp the leg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/9jj41s.jpg

With the near wrist if your stomp is timed well you might break them down well enough to attack omoplatas or triangles
http://oi61.tinypic.com/168vitx.jpg

You can begin working towards the back, if they shift their weight to defend use a deep hook and push at their armpit with your leg to topple them forward and take the back.
http://oi58.tinypic.com/90nf6f.jpg
http://oi57.tinypic.com/6f9q8k.jpg

If they pull their trapped leg out switch to foot on the hips or instantly attack with the sickle/tomahawk sweep. If they step away or over from that swing your leg back in and around to single leg x.
http://oi59.tinypic.com/iglxxx.jpg
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2vdpf2h.jpg


The hardest thing you will probably come across is maintaining the position, especially if you are learning it in no gi. In the beginning I would suggest holding any wrist grip with two hands, with your palms facing opposite directions. You won't be able to control the foot this way so you probably will get passed more in the beginning. However if you try hold the wrist with only one hand and control the foot with the other you will probably end up with lower sensitivity for the position and relying on only one or two options.

[Mikael Chay]

This thread may also be helpful:

http://www.10thplanetjj.com/threads/...uard-for-No-Gi

[Mikael Chay]

Nice gifs, Sean!
I don't want to sound like I'm speaking out of turn but maybe it'd be a good idea to copy your posts in the older thread I mentioned, so that useful posts like yours can be found neatly in one place/thread. Just a suggestion...

[Mike Nall]

I'm strongly of the opinion that while DLR can work for no-gi, but mostly from a control perspective. You can get thehips to the mat for a berimbolo, but it's hard, and the berimbolo works best no-gi from a footlock or double guard situation. For no-gi DLR, watch Joao Miyao's ADCC 2013 Trials matches and China matches, nogi pans 2014, and nogi worlds 2014.

It's also good for coming up onto singles. Check some old Rafa Mendes ADCC 2009 trials and Barcelona matches to see some of that. Honestly it works best as a control position before moving to X-guard or Spiral/RDLR. RDLR offers a lot stronger and more versatile options in no-gi. You can grab the wrist and sometimes even the hip for DLR in no-gi, but not having the belt, lapel, or sleeve to grip is still a really big hurdle to overcome.

I definitely think your energy could be better served playing other open guards, but if you want to go for it you should do it.

[Damian J]

I use RDLR to defend knee slice pass and can sweep with it.

[Andrew Sarasin]

never knew that, makes sense, dont 10p use rdlr in warm ups and not dlr? I had a feeling now not because i have a choice but there are more classes with the gi and if I want my blue I have to put more time into it with the i anyways. But I would rather use techniques that transition well into both.

RDLR is definitely easier for no gi and is far more common.