Vitamin Junkie

[Chris Herzog]

Hypersensitive? now I'm gonna have to kill myself.

Hindsights gold, I'm new to the system, the forum and forums in general. Dude it's easy to see how you think it was a matter of being hyper sensitive, but really I'm not used to even thinking about talking back to brown belts, and since in most systems "respect" is such a big deal, I'm not used to them talking to me in a real person to person manner without the air of "professionalism" or whatever. I thought about how to respond and honestly I would normally rather but heads but I thought It was just a better idea to supplicate myself, since i'd rather look like a bitch and stay in the system then maybe win an argument and be shunned by the community.
I have a better feel for how things work here now, thanks to Herzog.

It's all good we are real peeps too, and btw you'll never win an arguement with me

[Chris Herzog]

The main issue with holistic IMO is there is very few peer reviewed research on it. There's just as much monetary bias going on, the few studies done are usually done by companies with a stake in holistic healing. So it has the same baggage as the FDA, but with less easily verifiable study results. A lot of it is based upon tradition and folk medicine. Don't get me wrong, I think there is a lot of folk medicine out there that is truly reliable, hell take a look at aspirin. But just because your mother's mother did it, doesn't mean its actually effective. A lot of products have studies that look like they were run by MuscleTech.

Also in the field of nutrition I think there is more bias created by special interest groups that sell products than by Pharma. The dairy council is a great example of this, they greatly use their funds to change public perception on dairy, its affect on health and use political lobbying to ensure that it remains a cornerstone in federally mandated diet guidelines.

I take supplements, but I also take a look into peer reviewed research on the supplements before I do. I think Aaron, while being hyper sensitive, did have a good point. I will agree that federal mandates on healthy lifestyles are extremely unreliable due to political pressuring from special interest groups. There are a lot of vitamins/minerals I feel have RDA's that are completely off, its just hard to give a good parabola on RDA's for such a diverse population. I feel that over the next several decades we are going to see adverse effects from over supplementing of vitamins through fortification, but it might be lost/misinterpreted with the current obesity crisis.

Overall, if you and your wife are experiencing a high quality of life on your current regiment I doubt we will ever agree on the subject of holistic medicine.

Ok

[Aaron Gustaveson]

It's all good we are real peeps too, and btw you'll never win an arguement with me

Will too, infinity!

[Aaron Gustaveson]

It's all good we are real peeps too, and btw you'll never win an arguement with me

Will too, infinity!

[Chris Herzog]

Does 2 infinities make it a double negative?

[Kurzy]

I will just go on record here saying "Fuck the Pharamceutical cabal".

Anyone who touts that naturalpathic healing is not authentic because it has not been "vetted" by medical "practitioners" and the medical industry needs to do a little reading on a couple subjects called "Tavistock institute of Human Relations", "Social engineering" and "Profit through symptom management".

Cannabis cures cancer. It's illegal.
Fasting cures cancer. That information is ignored by mainstream medicine.

There is money profit in having the population healthy, but rest assured, a huge percentage of North Americans are sick even though we are the "best fed" Continent in the world. (Thanks Monsanto)

Meanwhile Cancer fundraisers (suckers) are turned away if they don't raise a minimum of a $5000 donation to "the cause", which, rumour has it, only 1% of that money goes towards actual cancer research. Everyone is being duped. It's a giant crock of shit. These fucking thieves are stealing money from the blue collar suckers, and talking everyone into wearing pink shirts, and having men enter races wearing high-heeled shoes and whatever other demeaning bullshit they can think of, and it's all for making fat cats fatter.

[Stewart Landry]

No one duped me kurzy, I wear high heals cuz they make my calves look banging, and my shirt isn't pink it's salmon

[Kurzy]

No one duped me kurzy, I wear high heals cuz they make my calves look banging, and my shirt isn't pink it's salmon

lol, that salmon shirt is totally gonna clash with your pink makeup bag.

[Aaron Gustaveson]

Does 2 infinities make it a double negative?

lol, well in math there is positive infinity and negative infinity, but infinityXinfinity=infinity and infinity^infinity=infinity. You could have busted out the, I'm rubber your glue... comeback.

[Aaron Gustaveson]

I will just go on record here saying "Fuck the Pharamceutical cabal".

Anyone who touts that naturalpathic healing is not authentic because it has not been "vetted" by medical "practitioners" and the medical industry needs to do a little reading on a couple subjects called "Tavistock institute of Human Relations", "Social engineering" and "Profit through symptom management".

Cannabis cures cancer. It's illegal.
Fasting cures cancer. That information is ignored by mainstream medicine.

There is money profit in having the population healthy, but rest assured, a huge percentage of North Americans are sick even though we are the "best fed" Continent in the world. (Thanks Monsanto)

Meanwhile Cancer fundraisers (suckers) are turned away if they don't raise a minimum of a $5000 donation to "the cause", which, rumour has it, only 1% of that money goes towards actual cancer research. Everyone is being duped. It's a giant crock of shit. These fucking thieves are stealing money from the blue collar suckers, and talking everyone into wearing pink shirts, and having men enter races wearing high-heeled shoes and whatever other demeaning bullshit they can think of, and it's all for making fat cats fatter.

Tavisstock is social "science". Cannabis does not cure cancer, my uncle recommends cannabis and marinol to cancer and some other terminal patents, they still die bro, but THC in conjunction with other cannabinoids has been shown to prevent or stop the development of precancerous cells. That was a "mainstream science" finding by the way.

There is evidence that fasting may increase the effectiveness of chemotherapy,

http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/4/...9-47bb07091129

Doctors want to help sick people. There is no nationwide conspiracy at the doctor patient level. The reliance on prescription drugs has gotten a little out of hand (way out of hand for certain conditions) and Mercks influence at the medical school level is appalling. Thing is most doctors are smart, discerning people who spot bullshit as easily or more easily than most. Doctors know better than anyone that pharmaceutical companies exist for profit.