Vitamin Junkie

[Chris Garry]

Chris thats what I thought, until my age and injuries caught up to me. I was proven extremely wrong. Everything that goes into your body matters.

Fair enough bro, I always appreciate your experience and take your advice on board. Ill look into the vit c more closely. Ive taken it before, making weight etc as a diuretic, but steered clear of it on the whole.

I just dont really have faith in supplements any more. Used to consume too much protein and overhydrate regularly. Couldnt work out why it wasnt working for me.

Since then I've cut meat and dairy out of my diet and its worked wonders. Gone back to basics. Not worrying about every little thing that goes in has helped me a lot, stressing about diet just seems counter productive.

After all this time I finally feel like I'm almost there and my training is going great. A lot of the most consistent guys Ive trained with give little thought to diet and supplements aside from generally eating clean. I'll admit I havent really considered the long term implications and issues that may arise in the future, what you have said has hit a chord there but lifes short if I was looking to be as healthy as possible in my later years I would stop doing MMA now and start swimming a couple times a week instead.

[James III]

Just off the top off my head you can look up ephedra. I believe it was St. Johns wart that has made a bunch of people crazy. One of my friends’ moms owned a health food/supplement store and died from taking ephedra. She was a health nut in her thirties. I can look up some links later, Heading to a beer fest!

yes send me some links when you can. Ephedra is just one thing and those alleged deaths have never been proven just linked. We can link many things to the death of someone if we try.

Personally I've never heard of many people dying from non-Fda approved supplements quite the opposite. I've heard of thousands of people dying taking drugs they were correctly prescribed from their doctors that were Fda approved. I found those official figures quite disturbing.

[Arthur]

Right on brotha! You know what I'm talkin' about then. Man, I was shaking my head when I saw the vitamins in Joe's cabinet in his Kale shake video. No NSP :/

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[Aaron Gustaveson]

LOL you're welcome to believe that bullshit, I refuse to.

Thanks for your permission to agree with prevailing science. I didn’t mean to offend you. Most people have spent years of their lives studding this would consider your opinion bullshit by the way. Pretty much like a white belt calling your jujitsu opinions bullshit (of course these are not my opinions but the scientific communities’ current prevailing thinking so I'm not emotionaly invested)

[Aaron Gustaveson]

I'm amazed a grown man is resorting to person attacks over vitamin shit. What the hell does this have to do with wonder bread? I wouldn’t eat that stuff. You must be insecure in your beliefs or just really emotional.

[Aaron Gustaveson]

Everything Chris Herzog posted about celiac disease seems to be correct as far I know. Except the last fact seems to be in contradiction to the Mayo Clinic which is one of leading researchers of celiac. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s wrong though. I said 0.5-1.0%. 1/133=0.008%.

[Aaron Gustaveson]

I was going to dig up some link but honestly all you have to do is use google.

Here wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedra..._United_States

[Kyle Spalla]

I'm amazed a grown man is resorting to person attacks over vitamin shit. What the hell does this have to do with wonder bread? I wouldn’t eat that stuff. You must be insecure in your beliefs or just really emotional.

Coach Zog is just fucking around. Insecure is not the word I would use to describe him ever. He just cares about seeing people take care of themselves and honestly listening to listen to government and corporate funded "proven science" studies is like watching the evening news and hoping to hear honest reporting. Sure some of of it's honest and good but most of it is going to be a fat crock of shit.