Head n' Arm Control while fighting w/ the Lockdown.

[Aab]

Combine stomps with the Godfather huh? Hmmmm I'm going to have to try this. Now that I have switched to Gi pants my Lockdown is so fn tight but I still have harder times whiping up on Blue belts however the godfather shit may work .....just have to see.

[waltsettlemyre]

Man Mike, that vid helped me a lot. I've watched it a couple times! Thanks bro!

[bobby rivers]

Tim. Yup. I have heard the arm triangle from bottom half called the apollo choke before. Eddie did it to Naoya Uematsu.

Don, I would use the godfather a LOT less if I wore gi pants. I only choose it over the stomps if they have good instep pressure and can escape their knee or if they have a considerable size advantage

[AJ Camacho]

Combine stomps with the Godfather huh? Hmmmm I'm going to have to try this. Now that I have switched to Gi pants my Lockdown is so fn tight but I still have harder times whiping up on Blue belts however the godfather shit may work .....just have to see.

It depends. I mean the dynamics to some of these moves exist in some form in other sweeps. So you may want to get some reps in on white belts before taking it to the blue belts. Each move has a meta-game or a battle within a battle that can occur when up against a knowledgeable opponent. So like for half guard itself, much of the meta game will revolve around that outside underhook and your opponent trying to flatten your back against the mat. For the super stomp, they will be trying to slip that half butterfly hook.

I guess what I'm saying is that it would be a shame if you drilled something 20 times, took it to the mat, had it crushed by a blue belt, and then moved on looking for another move that will "do the trick".

[Aab]

It depends. I mean the dynamics to some of these moves exist in some form in other sweeps. So you may want to get some reps in on white belts before taking it to the blue belts. Each move has a meta-game or a battle within a battle that can occur when up against a knowledgeable opponent. So like for half guard itself, much of the meta game will revolve around that outside underhook and your opponent trying to flatten your back against the mat. For the super stomp, they will be trying to slip that half butterfly hook.

I guess what I'm saying is that it would be a shame if you drilled something 20 times, took it to the mat, had it crushed by a blue belt, and then moved on looking for another move that will "do the trick".

Yea I agree its just I cant whip up on them heavy mfers and they keep protected from my double unders. I have gotta get good at stomping I guess because when i go for the stomp they just pass into side control.

[Brandon Mccaghren]

Tim. Yup. I have heard the arm triangle from bottom half called the apollo choke before. Eddie did it to Naoya Uematsu.

Don, I would use the godfather a LOT less if I wore gi pants. I only choose it over the stomps if they have good instep pressure and can escape their knee or if they have a considerable size advantage

yep. apollo choke. we just call it an arm triangle. the major difference i see in it is that eddie s grips his hands behind his head and uses that leverage to drive the arm deeper across the neck before locking it up and giving it the squeeze.

[AJ Camacho]

Yea I agree its just I cant whip up on them heavy mfers and they keep protected from my double unders. I have gotta get good at stomping I guess because when i go for the stomp they just pass into side control.

What helps me, is to fully extend the lockdown before I release it. Then as they are regaining their base I re-wrap to the half butterfly and kick push them back with my hook before they can get their base back together. I usually have to do it all quick and fast because if I sit with that hook too long they get too acclimated to it and try to pass it.

It's kind of funny actually because I learned it at one of Eddie's seminars and one of the guys I was drilling with was bigger than me and I think he was from the local school, so he was familiar with it. For the drill we would setup and start in the half butterfly. Right when Eddie would say "ready" this dude would already start to nudge his knee out of my butterfly hook killing the whole drill. It was frustrating but the point is that, that half butterfly spot isn't the safest spot to chill out at especially when the dude knows what you are trying to do.

[Jesse Bell]

1. Mike you remind me of Mike Vallely.

2. Are you teaching 10thpjj classes in North Carolina?

[Nate Musick]

Sorry guys, wanna freshen this thread up so I could review. Anyone want to post advanced half guard? I've heard the term Forsaken Whip dropped, not quite sure what it is

[michael craig]

the lockdown is a very overlooked techniqe so many options