Rolling Back Take With Gary Tonon

[Chris Garry]

What are you a purple belt in, being a prick?

I don't wanna come off as a giant turd sack cus I quietly eat breathe sleep and piss 10P

But I ain't some run of the mill blue belt either. I ain't goin into what I've sacrificed for this system but let's jus say I need my credit where it's due. Same way I need my lettuce when it's new.

If you can't respect that you can go train in a gi for all I care Eric.

[Eric Perez]

whoa whoa whoa take it easy, it was a simple question.

[David Rosado]

I like it. But for the time being I live in truck city until guys become hip to it. Lotta guys with great RNC defense. Not too many guys with truck defense.

Here we go! 1:30 mark

That mouth piece is dope though.

[Sergio Lozoya]

Yeah, I guess I really don't have much exp in the truck. But in this video you can see he doesn't get his hooks in but is still at an advantageous position.

Draculino rocking fangs haha

[Chauncey Nu'usolia]

I trained with Gary for about 8 weeks last year. His game is incredible, and it works on everyone, big or small. Just rolling with him I leveled up every time. Being able to feel that next level, it was eye opening.

I don't see many leg locks in the traditional system. Sure there's a few calf slices, a heel hook from the knot, a toe hold or two, but even Eddie himself has said he doesn't go for them much. Me on the other hand, I look for leg locks from everywhere.

I could demonstrate leg locks from passing open guard, from inside guard, from having someone on your back. They are not in the system, but this doesn't make them incorrect, or secondary options when they are my go to's.

Jiu jitsu is your game, make it work for you. If you like it add it, if you don't, do not. If you think at this stage in your game you are better off following only the system because its simpler that way and that works for you, that's awesome. That's what it's here for. That's why we all love it.

But there are more options. Eddie may preach M1, where I like taking heel hooks.

I love 10th Planet, but there are other good set ups out there. Can't hurt to be open minded as a blue belt when you are still finding your game. You may just try something new and love it.

Holy fuck this thread took off!!

1. Kevin Reed laying down the pipe of knowledge for you MoMo's....big ups werm hopefully i get a chance to come down there to Vista and get some rolls in!

2.How douchey is it to post a video of you "beating" a "black belt" to prove you've got cred!!?? How does this prove your point is valid about the video? That has to be the lamest shit EVER!! So what if you took a black belt down, you didn't even SUBMIT him!! You took him down and won on points GROSS!! Your wack as fuck for that!! You fight MMA, and TAKE DOWN black belts, and been putting your time in, blah blah blah if that's the mindset you have your LOST....and you should be ashamed of yourself.
You got your "trouser's" all knotted up because no one went along with you picking apart my thread with a simple back take. Instead they did, what you should have thought to do, which is leave a helpful or encouraging comment. But noooo you see it and post some pompous "im better that you post" without even trying it and got shot down like you did on your prom night. You might be a blue belt that takes down black belts in jiu jitsu but your a wanker who takes shit up the ass in real life. Cheerio!

3. I have been finding success with this guys my size and smaller, especially when i fake the hooks and snap it real quick i can even get clear enough to get the hooks in, on guys my level so far. Imma keep drilling it keep you guys updated...if guys better than me are doing it,(Draculino & Gary Tonon) it must be right.

[Fraser Taylor]

2.How douchey is it to post a video of you "beating" a "black belt" to prove you've got cred!!?? How does this prove your point is valid about the video? That has to be the lamest shit EVER!! So what if you took a black belt down, you didn't even SUBMIT him!! You took him down and won on points GROSS!! Your wack as fuck for that!! You fight MMA, and TAKE DOWN black belts, and been putting your time in, blah blah blah if that's the mindset you have your LOST....and you should be ashamed of yourself.
You got your "trouser's" all knotted up because no one went along with you picking apart my thread with a simple back take. Instead they did, what you should have thought to do, which is leave a helpful or encouraging comment. But noooo you see it and post some pompous "im better that you post" without even trying it and got shot down like you did on your prom night. You might be a blue belt that takes down black belts in jiu jitsu but your a wanker who takes shit up the ass in real life. Cheerio!

Wow, what a post. You just made this thread 10x worse with an all out attack and sarcastic quotation marks. Chris makes a decent point and a decent post and gets passive aggressive sarcasm thrown at him, no wonder he felt he had to defend himself a bit; it's like someone questioning his knowledge of JJ and making it out that his opinion isn't worth shit.

Chris never picked apart anything, all he done was throw out an opinion and because it wasn't some nuthugging post he is suddenly a "wanker who takes shit up the ass in real life".

You stay classy, Chauncey.

[Chauncey Nu'usolia]

Wow, what a post. You just made this thread 10x worse with an all out attack and sarcastic quotation marks. Chris makes a decent point and a decent post and gets passive aggressive sarcasm thrown at him, no wonder he felt he had to defend himself a bit; it's like someone questioning his knowledge of JJ and making it out that his opinion isn't worth shit.

Chris never picked apart anything, all he done was throw out an opinion and because it wasn't some nuthugging post he is suddenly a "wanker who takes shit up the ass in real life".

You stay classy, Chauncey.

Ok lets address the douchey/pompous points as i brought them up in my previous post:

How are you gonna give insight, or make a comment on something u haven't tried? I posted this video and i got an immediate response, i highly doubt he saw it, grabbed a partner and started drilling it right away as to give a feedback. Then had the nerve to say the "systems already has better options" duhhhh there is always is a better option this is just ANOTHER option. Like im trying to reinvent the system?! example of pompousness no.1

Now what does a video of you winning a black belt have to do with this post or give you cred? No one was discrediting him, he jumped to that conclusion all on his own. (douchery example no.2) So to show he has cred he posted a video of him "beating" a "seasoned black belt" come on lets just go around telling people the highest level guy or gal we have beat so we can seem accredited. Not very humble if u ask me, and that's not what jiu jitsu is about...and that is 3rd douchey/pompous example

douchey/pompous example no. 4 Chris decides to tell us the hes "no run of the mill blue belt" and all that he "sacrificed for this system" and that "I need my credit where it's due". HA! what the fuck here you go with your credit again, are you paying bills with these jiu jitsu credits you deserve? Is that why u need them? All 3 of those quotes are what pompous assholes say. No way to get around it. It might have seemed harsh but if your gonna say some douchey pompous shit imma call u out on it especially being a 10p brother making us look bad, that's bad for the system.

Always classy and a lil nasty, Fraser.

[Fraser Taylor]

It's all about interpretations man and reading text on a screen never fully conveys what people mean. That's kinda the problem here. I think it was more so Eric Perez's posts were fairly sarcastic and Chris went on the defensive, I suppose nobody likes being questioned and maybe to Chris it seemed people were discrediting his opinions but he's a good dude and certainly isn't big-headed or pompous from any encounters I've had with him. Just crossed wires and having a bad day perhaps.

[Eric Perez]

Who cares if my posts were sarcastic? If you dont have a sense of humor go on with yo bad self. To discredit a move that you haven't tried in my opinion is stupid. However claiming to be open minded like 10PJJ is supposed to be and acting that way was a little ironic. Then who gives a crap if you beat a shitty black belt? Not all doctors are the same. Some go to Harvard and some go to medical schools in the caribbean just like not all black belts are the same either. Same thing happened on Zogs ghost technique video. Some newb trying to tell him his shit don't work. If you have a certain feeling keep it to Yoself. When I heard he sacrificed a lot for jiu jitsu i started crying and playing a violin for him like I give a damn. And just like my idol Andrew Dice Clay I held up a drink and toasted to Chris and said "Here's to you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sucking my dick". Hows that for sarcasm Frasier? Now go back and cry to Niles and Martin and the rest of the cast of the TV show.

It's all about interpretations man and reading text on a screen never fully conveys what people mean. That's kinda the problem here. I think it was more so Eric Perez's posts were fairly sarcastic and Chris went on the defensive, I suppose nobody likes being questioned and maybe to Chris it seemed people were discrediting his opinions but he's a good dude and certainly isn't big-headed or pompous from any encounters I've had with him. Just crossed wires and having a bad day perhaps.

[Fraser Taylor]

Haha wow, I never cried to anyone, only tried to defuse things a little bit because I know Chris isn't he way he has been portrayed in this thread, he's a good guy. Things just got a bit mixed up man, there's no need to turn into Ultimate Warrior.

But yeah, I'll go cry to Niles, Martin, their wee dog, that chick and anyone else in the TV show Frasier. A show that bears a close resemblance to my name. How witty.

I never made any attack or anything towards you mate, your posts were sarcastic. Maybe you're upset at me saying they were 'fairly' sarcastic and you were going for 'really' sarcastic? You know, not all doctors are the same and not all black belts are the same; just like sarcastic people, they can be so different...