Lockdown in the Gi

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Pant grips make old school unstoppable

[Ethan Coghill]

I train mostly in the GI right now too and I understand your struggle. I have problems with people that have good head arm control. I've been trying to work on my Whip-down but the GI seems to cause to much friction to pull my arm down. Mainly with one of our purple belts that likes to make it a point to try and beat my lockdown. no worries, Ill never give up . Old school is still MY highest percentage though.

[FUCKBOBBYDANNY]

just stay consistent with the lockdown game and keep tweaking it to see what works ..the main problem i have is when they go for Ezekiel chokes. So just keep ur shoulders shrugged and grip fight like crazy

[Will Thaxton]

Lockdown is my main path and I train 90% GI. Remember, whip up is not always one motion. It can look ugly and be a huge battle to get on your side. However, once there with double under hooks it's like getting a free sweep once you have developed your lockdown game.

[Israel Bannister]

I play lockdown in the gi alot. The biggest difference is definitely the amount of time it takes. As with most things gi vs no gi. The whip up will take longer and be uglier. Lots of jerking and waiting for the right opening

Here's a video of Rigan Machado going over some stuff. There's more on this channel too, it's definitely interesting stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5J821ADFT0

[ohio2berlin]

I train mostly gi too. So, if I am taking this correctly, it comes down to you gotta fight for it a bit more with the gi. Be patient and keep working it and eventually it will work.

I had the same problems with heavier guys and higher belts. It wasn't as bad before M3, but now it is worse since more people know what is happening.

[Joshua Jarboe]

Pant grips make old school unstoppable

Thanks! I'll try it!

[Joshua Jarboe]

I wish I could answer your questions but I havnt trained in a gi in so long, I forget what works and what doesn't in the gi

That's alright Professor Bravo. If you want to be a g in a gi you can't complain. OGs don't whine.

just stay consistent with the lockdown game and keep tweaking it to see what works ..the main problem i have is when they go for Ezekiel chokes. So just keep ur shoulders shrugged and grip fight like crazy

Folks threaten them and it forestalls me a little. I try to keep my chin tucked and start whipping like a crazy person if I'm in danger. I can't say my whip is good but it helps sometimes...

Lockdown is my main path and I train 90% GI. Remember, whip up is not always one motion. It can look ugly and be a huge battle to get on your side. However, once there with double under hooks it's like getting a free sweep once you have developed your lockdown game.

Yes, that makes sense, particularly in the gi. Have you seen any videos showing how the whip up is not always one motion? I haven't seen much on that subject: all the demonstrations I've seen show what appears to be the ideal whip up. Gi grips make their defense better. But I'm starting to wonder if I can whip up to my side gradually by using gi grips and just shifting my grip after each whip....

I play lockdown in the gi alot. The biggest difference is definitely the amount of time it takes. As with most things gi vs no gi. The whip up will take longer and be uglier. Lots of jerking and waiting for the right opening

Here's a video of Rigan Machado going over some stuff. There's more on this channel too, it's definitely interesting stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5J821ADFT0

Similar feedback here, that's really helpful. I'm starting to get a higher level picture of what the lockdown looks like.

If someone could post footage of the ugliness you two are talking about it would be immensely helpful for folks like me that are training in a gym where the lockdown probably isn't going to be taught for a while!

[highlygifted81]

I really like to pass the opposite side lapel behind their back to your lock down side arm. Keep the elbow high to block the over hook. This give you the control of double unders with one arm. Use the free arm to control their other leg (control their knee distance). keep your head glued to their hip. I find this to be a really good control for guys of all size. Also makes the electric chair setup a breeze.

[La'akea Sanborn]

highly gifted gave really good advice and I'm gonna have to try that, I totally see how that will help pull the electric chair. I would say that you may wanna check your clinch when you whip up.

Make sure your gable or s grippinp at the farside right below the ribs and clinching tight with your elbows and keeping your head glued.

Good foot work also helps greatly to get up to the dog fight and look for the boa, old sku, plan b, or c cup electric chair. good foot work is when you pull your outside foot to your butt with a hamstring curl and trap their foot in like a weird single leg quarter guard, and then extend your inside leg out and under in a circular motion until you get to the dog fight. do not let up on double unders, or they may put you back on your back.

Also check for electric chair unders before the jaws of life, try what highly gifted suggested as it sounds extremely high percentage.

if they tuck their leg and sit on it you might wanna go to butter fly half and look at transitioning into other guards, maybe deep half or x guard variants.