Originally Posted by
frank-theman-james
...It was clear that only a couple of these guys had a knowledge of what they were doing. The rest were clueless.
Sometimes its hard to quickly tap someone who is "clueless" however, because they do things you don't expect. I find it's easier to tap a guy who's been training for a couple of months than it is to tap a guy who doesn't train at all. Remember, we are talking about sparring/rolling which has certain rules both parties are following. It's not a real fight.
The most impressive thing about these videos where Rener rolls with seminar participants (there's at least one more video like this on You Tube) is that he uses really basic stuff. It's tradition GJJ with a lot of guard work and many submissions via armbar and triangle. I complained in another thread about the Gracies not updating their system, but when you watch a video like this you see how effective basics can be when applied correctly.
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