I did just smoke a fat bowl so i might have to read it back later on to see if I sounded dumb or not.
I was thinking just a couple minutes ago about how slaps are only allowed on the floor, but they should probably be allowed standing up too. Of course it isn't now because we're thinking of it in a ground and pound and survive or getting hit while transitioning or going for a submission kind of way(only assuming, not like I've asked Eddie Bravo himself). There's no point in not having it standing up. Most people when they think about using jiu jitsu in a fight, they tend to worry about the elite striker who can keep distance but still tag you, has good takedown defense, something like that, some striker that can just light us up. So why not allow stand up open Palm strikes to:
1. Showcase how you'd go for a technique if getting lit up from whatever distance, close or far, people tend to she'll up physically and almost insinctly when getting lit up if they've never trained any sort of striking martial art, even grapplers
2. Knockouts or tap out to strikes can become an occurrence (plus I don't think* that slaps or Palm strikes while painful and having potential to ko someone, it isn't like and elbow, or punch, getting hit by all bone, palms are waaaaay softer
3. Guys will start considering training their boxing to then apply it in CJJ when Palm striking. This next part might be cooky, but if guys who are already elite on the ground start training boxing to Apple the technique in CJJ with Palm strikes instead of fist, having some sort of experience and training in striking might give that person confidence to then be more encouraged of not already to pursue MMA, giving us MMA fighters who can strike, but are just ELITE on another level at grappling, particularly jiujitsu. That of course only happens if the person were to pursue mma, or even worry about training their hands for Palm strikes in CJJ.
4. Points can be assessed, since striking with your hands while standing can happen so fast and frequent, combos coming in chains of 4 or even 5 should be rewarded but not until the match will go to OT where points are assessed like other EBIs. Each strike landed can account for a tenth of a point, it won't win you the round because there aren't any points until OT ,BUT a tally can be kept so if somehow each OT round ends in a draw and you have to calculate who won based off time of submission escapes, you can then also add in the number of strikes that resulted in a tenth of a point, how ever many points it may be, 1 or 2 or 3 etc.
Again I'm baked and already see a couple of flaws in how the points would be factored into times of escapes but either way, I think it can only keep the jiu jitsu MORE honest while still having jiu jitsu be the primary way of victory but every now and then someone can get a bitch slap so hard they see stars. For example this past weekend in a CJJ match, Vagners, the winner of the tournament was in a match where someone (forgot his name) charged at him. In a real fight which in a way is what CJJ is trying to represent while not doing it completely in order to keep jiu jitsu as the focal point of the activity but keep it honest when strikes are involved. Guys will get better at shooting for take downs, guard pulls or unseen or rare techniques used to defend while getting LIT UP may be seen.
All just a thought but an interesting one in my opinion. Then again as cool as that would be, CJJ is super entertaining as is.
I was thinking just a couple minutes ago about how slaps are only allowed on the floor, but they should probably be allowed standing up too. Of course it isn't now because we're thinking of it in a ground and pound and survive or getting hit while transitioning or going for a submission kind of way(only assuming, not like I've asked Eddie Bravo himself). There's no point in not having it standing up. Most people when they think about using jiu jitsu in a fight, they tend to worry about the elite striker who can keep distance but still tag you, has good takedown defense, something like that, some striker that can just light us up. So why not allow stand up open Palm strikes to:
1. Showcase how you'd go for a technique if getting lit up from whatever distance, close or far, people tend to she'll up physically and almost insinctly when getting lit up if they've never trained any sort of striking martial art, even grapplers
2. Knockouts or tap out to strikes can become an occurrence (plus I don't think* that slaps or Palm strikes while painful and having potential to ko someone, it isn't like and elbow, or punch, getting hit by all bone, palms are waaaaay softer
3. Guys will start considering training their boxing to then apply it in CJJ when Palm striking. This next part might be cooky, but if guys who are already elite on the ground start training boxing to Apple the technique in CJJ with Palm strikes instead of fist, having some sort of experience and training in striking might give that person confidence to then be more encouraged of not already to pursue MMA, giving us MMA fighters who can strike, but are just ELITE on another level at grappling, particularly jiujitsu. That of course only happens if the person were to pursue mma, or even worry about training their hands for Palm strikes in CJJ.
4. Points can be assessed, since striking with your hands while standing can happen so fast and frequent, combos coming in chains of 4 or even 5 should be rewarded but not until the match will go to OT where points are assessed like other EBIs. Each strike landed can account for a tenth of a point, it won't win you the round because there aren't any points until OT ,BUT a tally can be kept so if somehow each OT round ends in a draw and you have to calculate who won based off time of submission escapes, you can then also add in the number of strikes that resulted in a tenth of a point, how ever many points it may be, 1 or 2 or 3 etc.
Again I'm baked and already see a couple of flaws in how the points would be factored into times of escapes but either way, I think it can only keep the jiu jitsu MORE honest while still having jiu jitsu be the primary way of victory but every now and then someone can get a bitch slap so hard they see stars. For example this past weekend in a CJJ match, Vagners, the winner of the tournament was in a match where someone (forgot his name) charged at him. In a real fight which in a way is what CJJ is trying to represent while not doing it completely in order to keep jiu jitsu as the focal point of the activity but keep it honest when strikes are involved. Guys will get better at shooting for take downs, guard pulls or unseen or rare techniques used to defend while getting LIT UP may be seen.
All just a thought but an interesting one in my opinion. Then again as cool as that would be, CJJ is super entertaining as is.
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