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    I guess I just feel theres more to the SW guard than was shown on this video. I havent really looked into the guard or studied it but I thought Shawn had said he doesnt clasp his hands (which I guess wouldnt be London anymore) so then theres more options.
    Anyways I guess just cause it isnt in the system doesnt mean we're not allowed to do it. Some good opinions though

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    Haven't had the chance to watch but isnt the SW guard the same one Lister uses? He has a couple instructionals on YouTube if you want to check it out

    Might be under Lister omoplata

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    Probably works best if you hip out instead of stay flat.

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    I use London/ Shawn Williams Guard all the time.

    Just saw an MMA fight not too long ago with a BJJ black belt using it to set up a triangle.
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    I'm not getting it. Why not just go chill dog?

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    London isn't a bad position. I remember lister getting a triangle in the UFC a few years ago. It's great as it's own position.

    But does it belong in the 10th planet system? I don't think so. Eddie removed it for a reason. And while Williams has his solutions to the problem, I'm not sure it should be put back into the system since chill dog kinda solves the "problem." I mean, it's Master Eddie's system so it's up to him. I just don't see why we would need to put it back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Rosado View Post
    London isn't a bad position. I remember lister getting a triangle in the UFC a few years ago. It's great as it's own position.

    But does it belong in the 10th planet system? I don't think so. Eddie removed it for a reason. And while Williams has his solutions to the problem, I'm not sure it should be put back into the system since chill dog kinda solves the "problem." I mean, it's Master Eddie's system so it's up to him. I just don't see why we would need to put it back in.
    Isn't 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu "anything that works in no gi jiu jitsu"? So technically it is still in the system but not endorsed..

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