So I know this topic comes up ALL the time. But I was hoping to talk about it in a way thats perhaps a little more organized and open minded than the usual arguments you hear. I was wondering the pros and cons of each. And more specifically what the actual differences are between them.
Beginning with techniques.. I understand that the 10th planet system has names for literally every position and little transition (I personally love this aspect) But which of these moves are not taught in BJJ (regardless if they have a name), and why? I hear things like "rubber guard will never work" but at the same time "That was around in BJJ long before Eddie named it". Which for obvious reasons.. Doesnt line up (unless you admit youre teaching techniques you know to be faulty?) But as for the twister/twister side, lockdown, truck, ect.. Are any of these moves taught in Bjj? And on the flip side.. are there any moves in Bjj that arent taught in 10th planet (besides the obvious techniques that require a gi) if so, why?
On top of that.. what do you consider to be the most effective statistically? What i mean by this is.. Everyone here obviously believes in the system. But how does it usually stack up in tournaments? (im not asking this pretentiously.. I legitimately dont know the answer) Ive heard a few people talk about how 10th planet never wins any big/prestigious tournaments.. But at the same time I see a few people from the system winning world tournaments. (granted, BJJ probably has more gold medals per year as of now.. But you also have to think, they also have THOUSANDS of blackbelts.) So when people say things like "If its so good why has only 1 person ever got a medal at the Abu Dhabis?" I cant help but to put it into proportion and think "well, we had 2-3 guys invited.. which at the time was 30% of our blackbelts.. Where as less than 1% of bjj Black belts get invited." So I am curious to know if anyone goes to enough tournaments to notice how many 10th planet guys are winning compared to how many enter. (I live in ohio so theres very few 10th planet guys at the tournaments Ive been to)
I see both sides to the argument.. But I guess my main question is, other than the gi, and focus on the clinch.. whats the main differences between the two styles techniques/moves?
Beginning with techniques.. I understand that the 10th planet system has names for literally every position and little transition (I personally love this aspect) But which of these moves are not taught in BJJ (regardless if they have a name), and why? I hear things like "rubber guard will never work" but at the same time "That was around in BJJ long before Eddie named it". Which for obvious reasons.. Doesnt line up (unless you admit youre teaching techniques you know to be faulty?) But as for the twister/twister side, lockdown, truck, ect.. Are any of these moves taught in Bjj? And on the flip side.. are there any moves in Bjj that arent taught in 10th planet (besides the obvious techniques that require a gi) if so, why?
On top of that.. what do you consider to be the most effective statistically? What i mean by this is.. Everyone here obviously believes in the system. But how does it usually stack up in tournaments? (im not asking this pretentiously.. I legitimately dont know the answer) Ive heard a few people talk about how 10th planet never wins any big/prestigious tournaments.. But at the same time I see a few people from the system winning world tournaments. (granted, BJJ probably has more gold medals per year as of now.. But you also have to think, they also have THOUSANDS of blackbelts.) So when people say things like "If its so good why has only 1 person ever got a medal at the Abu Dhabis?" I cant help but to put it into proportion and think "well, we had 2-3 guys invited.. which at the time was 30% of our blackbelts.. Where as less than 1% of bjj Black belts get invited." So I am curious to know if anyone goes to enough tournaments to notice how many 10th planet guys are winning compared to how many enter. (I live in ohio so theres very few 10th planet guys at the tournaments Ive been to)
I see both sides to the argument.. But I guess my main question is, other than the gi, and focus on the clinch.. whats the main differences between the two styles techniques/moves?
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