Mouthguards

[Peterm]

Very few people here are as old school as I am, there a number of risks with not wearing a mouth piece. Old doesn't mean better, and it sure as shit doesn't mean smarter. Our knowledge and awareness of brain injuries in combat sports is far superior now that it was in the "ole timey days". It's a serious issue and needs to be addressed, if your coach doesn't care enough about your safety, you should.

I am not sure about the association between brain injuries and mouth guards outside of striking sports. I am not certain if you are making the assertion but there is no published evidence I have come across that supports the view that mouth guards protect against concussion.

Quite frankly I would be more concerned about a head injury arising out of a Greco Roman suplex or an o soto gari than anything that could possibly occur while down on the mat. They are far more likely to be injurious to your health.

I assume that your reference to Russians wearing mouth guards relates to Sambo to which I must defer to your knowledge. However it is categorically not true of Olympic wrestling or Judo.

If there really was the risk to which you speak I am surprised that Renzo Gracie, Marcelo Garcia and Roger Gracie
do not make mouth guards compulsory at their schools or actually wear them- or at least did not the last time I visited.

The cumulative years of experience of the Judo and wrestling community has not lead to the view that such are necessary or desirable and I remain to be persuaded otherwise.

[ScottRay]

Having a balance between hard and light rolling is essential to over all development in Jiu Jitsu. There are people on this very thread that I've imparted the idea of integrating some light rolling in their game, or more importanlty how to relax and flow when others are going hard. Goals dictate HOW you need to roll. I'm an advocate of both approcahes of rolling, however to tell someone to roll light without understanding the environment and conditions in which they are rolling is ignorant. I know Stew (who I know very well and trust ) has everything under control over there in the frosty north.


To difine terms:

Hard rolling doesn't mean roll like an asshole, it means to roll at full speed and resistance.

Light rolling is what I refer to as competiviely cooperative. Rolling at moderate speed and resistance.

How you roll with have a direct correlation with how you perfrom in those given enviroments.

If all you do is roll in the academy, them by all means just light roll, however thats what you will get good at. If you plan on competeing you better roll hard to get used to the resistance of a real monster, as thats who you will be facing, and they don't give a fuck how you roll in your gym.

^^This is truth. Well said, unlike some of my posts. I'm so bad with words, that I have managed to drag you into a debate, when we totally agree. Sitting here with the same ideas with different words for each. I apologize.

[Sam Sales]

That why I had two made. One in my purse and one in my gym bag. I also have a shitty boil-n-bite hanging around just incase. A mouthguard and a sports bra, and I'm set!!!

haha mouthguard in your purse - thats badass

[Amber Kamischke]

That why I had two made. One in my purse and one in my gym bag. I also have a shitty boil-n-bite hanging around just incase. A mouthguard and a sports bra, and I'm set!!!

This must be a girl thing because I always keep a spare set of clothes for rolling in the trunk of my car. I have a spare custom mouth guard so I will have to throw that in there too!

[Aaron Gustaveson]

Quit dicken up the place, dick.

you made my day.

[Aaron Gustaveson]

As far as the whole "Roll harder, Peterborough" comment goes, I'm not sure I understand how to take that.

Personally as a whitebelt, my game is changing as I get more comfortable with Jiu Jitsu. I know when I first started I was super spazztic, flinging limbs all over the place, whirling around like tornado, needlessly scrambling, etc. As I become more and more comfortable my general movements are slowing down, because I want them too. I have one year into Jiu Jitsu now and I am just starting to feel comfortable.

There are a few guys at our club who play a slow and steady game, where the pressure is one and you see things coming, but because of weight distribution, contact control, etc, there is not much you can do to stop whatever you see coming.

I have always been impressed by guys who roll like that, and I am trying to emulate that slow, steady, unstoppable pressure.
I can also be explosive and ultra fast if the game calls for that, but in general I make a concerted effort to roll under control and at pace that is slower than my old spazztic speed.

The dynamics of the matches change all the time. In my experience, two whitebelts tend to go harder and faster at each other than a whitebelt versus a senior belt. Typically the whitebelts don't want to tap to each other so the match intensity will escalate. I always try to slow things down when that happens.
Generally if a whitebelt rolls a higher belt/higher skilled player, the higher belt will set the match tempo anyways, and based on what I have experienced, it's a measured tempo.

So what I am saying is sometimes we roll easy, sometimes we roll "hard", but either way our rolling NEVER lacks in intensity in Peterborough.

Yeah i should have put a smiley face or "lol" or some other shit, we're forced to do to show tone. I apologize.
Im sure you're all better than me.

[Josh Passini]

i always wear a cup and mouthpiece. i'm too poor to get a fitted mouthpiece, but maybe when i'm rolling the cash like Passini i'll spring for one. as of now, it's just a pink tapout brand that i got from academy.

HAHA Rolling in cash LOL. Sugar Momma paid for it since I dont have Insurance and dental work is expensive. She also didnt like the idea of me missing teeth. I dont care but she does. Plus when you are getting punched, Elbowed, kicked, and kneed in the face the investment is worth it. Plus I have to breathe out of my mouth since I cant breathe out of my nose anymore(6 broken noses and a crushed septum). Perspective: 2 retail rashgaurds = one custom mouthguard

[Chris Herzog]

I am not sure about the association between brain injuries and mouth guards outside of striking sports. I am not certain if you are making the assertion but there is no published evidence I have come across that supports the view that mouth guards protect against concussion.

Quite frankly I would be more concerned about a head injury arising out of a Greco Roman suplex or an o soto gari than anything that could possibly occur while down on the mat. They are far more likely to be injurious to your health.

I assume that your reference to Russians wearing mouth guards relates to Sambo to which I must defer to your knowledge. However it is categorically not true of Olympic wrestling or Judo.

If there really was the risk to which you speak I am surprised that Renzo Gracie, Marcelo Garcia and Roger Gracie
do not make mouth guards compulsory at their schools or actually wear them- or at least did not the last time I visited.

The cumulative years of experience of the Judo and wrestling community has not lead to the view that such are necessary or desirable and I remain to be persuaded otherwise.

Well since Judo/Sambo are interchangable in Russia (There are no soley Judo Clubs or Sambo Clubs) its all the same there. Being an international competitor in Judo myself I saw a number of guys wearing mouth guards, me included, however its defintely not the norm, this is more because they traditionally aren't worn. Head to Head contact or more specificly head to jaw contact happens alot more No-Gi as sweat plays a factor.

Don't wear one thats up to you, the good news is I hear Renato is always lookin for more vegetables.

[Rachael Kaulig]

This must be a girl thing because I always keep a spare set of clothes for rolling in the trunk of my car. I have a spare custom mouth guard so I will have to throw that in there too!

Must be! That's funny.

[Chris Herzog]

^^This is truth. Well said, unlike some of my posts. I'm so bad with words, that I have managed to drag you into a debate, when we totally agree. Sitting here with the same ideas with different words for each. I apologize.

Don't worry I didn't consider it a debate, as I always win