Twister vs Exorcist Crank from the back..

[Chad Allen]

My question is, when beginning from the back, and transitioning off into the the twister.. Is there any advantage the Twister presents over Bas Rutten's Exorcist crank? (Roughly the same as the Twister, only you dont put the arm behind your head, and you crank more on the jaw than the top of the head.)

I was just wondering if either had pros/cons compared to the other, or if it was just a matter of preference.

(Clip of Bas teaching "The Exorcist Crank"

[Kyle Spalla]

The Twister opens up way more options and different submissions, this just seems like a second option for a failed RNC. I suppose they can both be used effectively

[Cody Kietzman]

Neck cranks are illegal in most tournaments. Twisters are not.

I guess if u make a crank with a choke your good.

[Gray]

I think most competitions that outlaw neck cranks also outlaw spinal cranks.

[David Rosado]

Seems like a good MMA option if you can't sink a choke. It's all neck though.


Twister I believe has more torque and more options. It's pretty situational. But I figure, if you're gonna tie up one leg in that exorcist crank, may as well grapevine it. Short cut to the neck crank, or work for a full twister. I like this video. Options are always nice.

[sean applegate]

There is definitely more control in the twister. More control=higher percentage.

And what about his hands? Two hands to fight off the crank. Idk. Seems like a silly option but bas rutten is a killer so idk

[Brent Smith]

This is the first time I've seen this. I really don't see anybody fighting off that crank even if they have 2 free hands mainly because as soon as the gable is put on and you pressure, fighting it would be near impossible (Because of your hook controlling the hip and essentially elongating the spine).

..Yeah that doesn't make much sense in text form. At least I know what I'm trying to say. Another good option! Don't expect to be able to use this in many tournaments though.

[Dustin Beck]

I use the shit outta this haha gently tho, they usually turn back to relieve pressure and most of the time I can wedge the blade of my forearm in for a short choke by using my head to lever theirs away opening the neck a tiny bit. There is a quick chance to ditch the crank and grab baseball bat control while their hands come up to defend as well but I don't usually go to that unless they are a beast at hand fighting. Oh and when using the single leg grapevine from the back like that you can avoid a lot of the hand fight by hiding your over under grip in their armpit instead of sticking it in the middle of their chest.

[Ryan Brick]

The twister comes from truck which is a differen control position that also leads to many other submissions.

This move comes from the back.

Both will be illegal in most tournaments ad you should probably know both for tournaments like NAGA and mma.

[David Rosado]

The twister comes from truck which is a differen control position that also leads to many other submissions.

This move comes from the back.

Both will be illegal in most tournaments ad you should probably know both for tournaments like NAGA and mma.

You can get a twister from back control. That's how Korean zombie got it.