Originally Posted by
DENNY PROKOPOS
Here is my match I defended the takedown then fired for a reverse triangle should have been 0 points for him. I defended the shoot to the front headlock and went for the guillotine why 2 points? why stop a full blown marcelotine?
Hey Denny, awesome match! Hopefully this clarifies the rules.
As far as the initial takedown points, at 2:20 he gets the takedown, and he must control for 3 seconds. You attacked with the reverse triangle, so he can not get takedown points until the submission is successfully defended. Once he escaped the triangle, the ref counts 3 seconds and gave AJ the 2 points.
The reason why they stopped the guillotine is funky, and it happened to Rafa Mendes for example during the Worlds this year in his 3rd match during an armbar attempt. If you have a submission locked on and your opponent intentionally flees the mat in a way that is not considered a legit sub defense (ie. standing up and walking out of bounds while locked in a triangle), then they get DQ'd and you win. If they go out of bounds just due to defending the submission (ie. Cobrinha vs. Rader in the 2012 No-Gi Worlds Final I have attached below) then they give 2 points to the guy with the submission and restart you on the feet.
That is what happened to you. You got 2 points since AJ defending the guillotine resulted in you both going out of bounds. For what it's worth, I think they should restart in the middle with the submission locked in.
Here's a video to reference. Cobrinha locks a RNC on Justin Rader at 10:10 and then Rader rolls out of bounds. They restart on the feet and give Cobrinha 2 points.
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