Sub Only Tournament at Big John's

[Gary Meek]

One girl even threw up after because she had never gone that long and hard before.

Wonder if she weighed back in afterwards and complained about being placed in the wrong weight class and that's why she lost? =)

[scottross]

I actually prefer the format we use for the Sub Only Series (different than Sub Only). It's a round robin where everyone gets four matches. Submissions get three points, draws one, and losing gets zero points, and the competitor with the most points wins the division.

In the event of a tie, and there usually is, we look at the cumulative time of all the matches (lowest time wins). If there is still a tie, and this hasn't happened yet - although once there was a difference of just five seconds - the fastest single submission will be the tiebreaker.

It's fair, it's clear, and it provides competitors with the experience they all need. The person who loses their first round needs the experience just as much as the person who wins.

But I did feel that the Sub Only tournament had a very interesting approach and perhaps that would be more interesting from a spectators perspective for higher ranking matches.

[Eddie Bravo]

I like all 3 sub only formats, Gracie Nationals rules, Submission Challenge rules and Sub Leagues/Subonly Series rules. They are all a million times better than the points format

[Aaron Bendersky]

I was there, it was cool, I have some videos of Compella, should I post them?

[Jason Mallory]

I like all 3 sub only formats, Gracie Nationals rules, Submission Challenge rules and Sub Leagues/Subonly Series rules. They are all a million times better than the points format

I agree... they all promote the true heart of jiu jitsu better than points tournaments.

[Bill Keeling]

I like all 3 sub only formats, Gracie Nationals rules, Submission Challenge rules and Sub Leagues/Subonly Series rules. They are all a million times better than the points format

This! I love all of these formats! The round robin idea sounds clean cut, But Derek's seems to be very good as well... Love it!