The Oprah From Rubber Guard <VIDEO> Carni Variation

[scottross]

I already said this on Facebook but it would be remiss not to include it in the forum. I've played with a similar position in the past but I was inconsistent with the finishes. Elevating the hips is the most important detail I was missing.

This is a great move to look for from the butterfly, specifically from the cocoon, or even from a scramble if you can grab an overhook.

I like to start off with a butterfly guard and go straight to the Carney but the Oprah is definitely a better option.

[Brandon Mccaghren]

I already said this on Facebook but it would remiss not to include it in the forum. I've played with a similar position in the past but I was inconsistent with the finishes. Elevating the hips is the most important detail I was missing.

This is a great move to look for from the butterfly, specifically from the cocoon, or even from a scramble if you can grab an overhook.

I like to start off with a butterfly guard and go straight to the Carney but the Oprah is definitely a better option. =

Scott, you just made my day, dude. Having the system assassins backing up me up feels amazing

P.S. - Escape side control straight into this kill. Love, brandon.

[Isaac Atley]

has anyone tried the shanaynay from new york? as an alternative to kung fu? for that matter, could it work from london?

[scottross]

has anyone tried the shanaynay from new york? as an alternative to kung fu? for that matter, could it work from london?

I was playing with this last night and most of the time a simple crowbar worked. But then someone stacked me just the right way and I needed the shaynaynay - and it worked like a charm.

I would stick with the kung fu from New York because it allows you to clear the head and still hug the knee. If you are having trouble with the kung fu move, flare your elbow out to push their chin away from your body - that will make the space you need.

[Brent Smith]

Yeah ive played with the shanaynay a bit and I found clearing the head the regular way more natural for me at least. I bet there are times when it would work well to use it like the situation Scottross used as an example though

[Bill Keeling]

Great options, love seeing everyone working together to evolve the system

[bobby rivers]

Oh no you didn't..

[Isaac Atley]

yeah i tried it yesterday as well and found it worked alright. but the omaplata felt more natural than the gogoplata. what i was thinking and it worked well on my dummy this morning, was using it from new york crackhead. you can use your free arm to keep more control over the pumped arm and still bring the foot over etc. im lacking human training partners/test subjects at the moment so i cant really go further than that. but if nothing else theres something else in our arsenals if kung fu move isnt working.

and i was pushing my shoulder through with my arm and that seemed to cut down on the space that the opponent had to move his zombied arm.

could also be good in mma when they are throwing punches. i can see someone being stacked and being able to get a gogoplata while blocking punches.

its all jsut food for thought

[MikeW]

Scott, you just made my day, dude. Having the system assassins backing up me up feels amazing

P.S. - Escape side control straight into this kill. Love, brandon.

Gonna play with this. I love the carni especially when escaping side control but I need to work on my meathook game.

[Sean Marshall]