Originally Posted by
Jared Gammel
but when the entire rest of his game is based in trad. 1/2 guard, why would he use lockdown in this single situation?
seems unnecessary, especially when he doesn't stay in the truck and simply transitions to the back.
While it is true Ryan goes straight to the back, I think you may be confusing him with Jeff Glover when you say his game is based on the half guard. Jeff's game was/is famous for the deep half. Ryan has started doing the deep half a lot, but I haven't seen much of him in the basic half guard, except in the older days when shooting for a triangle from the overhook half guard.
Lately Hall has been doing tons of back-takes both gi and no-gi. Lots of Rear Naked Chokes and Bow & Arrows. The Marcelo Guillotine from hell. Obviously 50/50 sweeps, reverse heelhooks, etc.
Originally Posted by
Derek Stewart
now i totally think its awesome that people are utilizing 10th planet techniques especially the twister roll which is very unique to the system and i think its awesome that great jiu-jitsu guys that didn't want to do a super fight with denny prokopos are now using the technique and even putting videos out about it but i'd be surprised to see or hear a mention just giving eddie credit, props, and acknowledgement for the innovation eddie has put forth with the move.
with that said it makes me feel uneasy that 10th planet shit will get put out like its unique to some one elses game and that its not in fact 10th planet. Its already enough bs to hear people say that the techniques we do or our system is not unique but to watch it actually be taught and with the idea that its being taught without giving a little respect where respect might just lead to a trend.
Are you really saying Ryan Hall stole a move (that was most likely done before any of us were born) and isn't giving credit for it, when it is actually different than the twister roll? Actually watch the entire DVD and not just a sample clip.
As for the grapevine back-take, Gokor, Karo, and a lot of other guys take the back with a grapevine. I learned it from a CACC guy in Maine in 2001.
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