Steven Seagal, I just cant take you seriously

[Jonathan Wylie]

"akido can be put to use on the ground. If you're argument is "well these locks are only used in BJJ", then that is not true at all. These wristlocks are a fusion of BJJ and akido (and it's also fair to give some credit to JJJ and ninjitsu). Like it or not, akido CAN and HAS been used effectively in a sports environment. I mean where do you think the lock's mechanics came from? No one here is trying to say akido is useful by itself. No martial art is really against a trained fighter. But like it or not there are elements of akido in BJJ. "
Nothing comes from aikido it was developed in the early 20th century and since bjj was developed around the same time in brazil and aikido in Japan Im pretty sure aikido had no influence on bjj. Morihei Ueshiba developed aikido based on his training in other martial arts like aiki jujutsu. And aikido cant be put use on the ground because there are no ground techniques in aikido. Wrist locks can be put to use on the ground.

[Jonathan Wylie]

Jonathan, your mocking is not properly adressed my friend. I did not say you will not be belted unless you know Aikido wrist locks, lets not twist words here. I said you will not be belted in a reputable BJJ school unless you know some self defense. It is a part of the whole Brazilian Jiu jitsu curriculum. Then I said there are moves in that curiculum which rely on joint manupulation which are originated from Aikido.

Also probably except Gracies, there is no such thing as belt testing. Meaning, if somebody is in a "belt testing" enviroment, than his instructors has already decided that he is ready for the next level, and his is going to get that belt at the end of the day no matter what. The guy rolling with lots of people to the brink of exhaustion and trying to demonstrate everything he knows is more of the ceremony than actual testing.

For your information at our school, even during the ceremony, some aspects of self defence is demonstrated by the promoting students.

Point taken, but isn't self defense a part of most martial arts curriculum? and if you read my previous post you will understand how joint manipulation did not originate from aikido and aikido definitely had no influence on bjj.

[AndyK5]

Point taken, but isn't self defense a part of most martial arts curriculum? and if you read my previous post you will understand how joint manipulation did not originate from aikido and aikido definitely had no influence on bjj.

fair enough