Placeholder(after world's): 'Carne-val Combo', 'Rubber Stamp', Captain Morgan, Evil-

[Slick Rick]

Dude...this is awesome....it went like this:







Now it's time for the 2 coasts to battle!!!

That's cool as shiza! Hahahah! Nah man we arent in a coast to coast battle. We're in a world wide movement!! Our plans and tactics are hashed out here for all to see, because in the end, "the revolution will not be televised!"

[Jonathan Wylie]

Let me just jump in as devils advocate here and back Herzog's opinion on "pain-compliant" techniques not being effective 100% of the time. Granted, you don't want to "goon" anything or look for a forced reaction, you wanna hit your path with clean technique, makes sense. I can also see what Rick means though when he says it's been working for 2 years, proof is in the pudding, eh? So that I would say that although it is a technique reliant on pain to succeed initially, that attack can be developed, much like you do for your RNC squeeze for example, so that over time you have a larger scale of success with it, because you put the numbers in I think that's the wonderful think about Jits, it's that given enough mat time spent on any single technique you can really develop what works for you and thus raise the success rates on moves people couldn't normally apply effectively.

People are more likely to say "this sucks im going to work my open guard" in the gym but try it on a guy who cut weight, paid 60 bucks traveled across town or further, has his coach yelling in his ear and a video camera rolling. Then there is mma with money on the line, you got people with broken arms, coming back from unconsciousness, blood squirting out of their head arguing with refs and docs that they are good to keep going! I think its going to take more than a couple knuckles digging in the back of those guys to get them to let go especially when the alternative to the knuckles in the back is knuckles in your face.

[Slick Rick]

People are more likely to say "this sucks im going to work my open guard" in the gym but try it on a guy who cut weight, paid 60 bucks traveled across town or further, has his coach yelling in his ear and a video camera rolling. Then there is mma with money on the line, you got people with broken arms, coming back from unconsciousness, blood squirting out of their head arguing with refs and docs that they are good to keep going! I think its going to take more than a couple knuckles digging in the back of those guys to get them to let go especially when the alternative to the knuckles in the back is knuckles in your face.

I like your style. ;-)

[Jonathan Wylie]

Thanks, I like your attitude and appreciate you putting this stuff out there for us. It might not be for me but you are still sharing.

[Slick Rick]

Thanks, I like your attitude and appreciate you putting this stuff out there for us. It might not be for me but you are still sharing.

Very true. Very true. Its definitely a learning experience for me, and I didn't get to where I am by keeping techs to myself. Share, refine, and redefine... Doing my part to keep the system moving.

[Chris Herzog]

Dude...this is awesome....it went like this:







Now it's time for the 2 coasts to battle!!!

LOL beautiful! Its a great thing that we can have a back an forth debate, where the outcome is we all win.

[Chris Herzog]

People are more likely to say "this sucks im going to work my open guard" in the gym but try it on a guy who cut weight, paid 60 bucks traveled across town or further, has his coach yelling in his ear and a video camera rolling. Then there is mma with money on the line, you got people with broken arms, coming back from unconsciousness, blood squirting out of their head arguing with refs and docs that they are good to keep going! I think its going to take more than a couple knuckles digging in the back of those guys to get them to let go especially when the alternative to the knuckles in the back is knuckles in your face.

Agreed, now add 1.5 inches of compressed foam and leather on your hand.

[David Rosado]

Great discussion. Damn kinda wish more forums were filled with level headed folks.

Looking forward to more video updates.

[Slick Rick]

Great discussion. Damn kinda wish more forums were filled with level headed folks.

Looking forward to more video updates.

Thanks David, I just got the Evil guard video recorded. Gonna upload to YouTube. I hope you like it!

[Brent Smith]

Thanks David, I just got the Evil guard video recorded. Gonna upload to YouTube. I hope you like it!