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    Kinda interesting. From the duda position but its a shoulder lock instead of a slicer/crush. I might play with this, as the duda is awesome but if you can lock the shoulder from there..hmm

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    Thanks for the video. It looks very very cool.

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    If you do your duda with the lock on the hip side (I do). Then the shoulder lock is there as well. It's not just a crush, but the crush is there. It's a combination of both. Still just an arm crush set up though

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    Also in the video above, he doesn't close his legs. In my experience, no gi especially, guys immediately try to posture and will pull the arm out. Closing it off for the crush is crucial in controlling posture.

    Maybe he has some new details on how to control your opponent from here. I'm excited to see this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean applegate View Post
    Also in the video above, he doesn't close his legs. In my experience, no gi especially, guys immediately try to posture and will pull the arm out. Closing it off for the crush is crucial in controlling posture.

    Maybe he has some new details on how to control your opponent from here. I'm excited to see this.
    Ya, this is what interested me, I noticed he wasn't clamping down to slice on the duda. This seems to be a shoulder lock. Very interesting, im gonna play with it tonight. I too am wondering what keeps the posture down? Reminds me of a Kurinnoy shoulder lock but from a duda position. It attacks the should with the really weird angle. I dunno how legit the move is gonna be tho... that posture thing is a killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottRay View Post
    Ya, this is what interested me, I noticed he wasn't clamping down to slice on the duda. This seems to be a shoulder lock. Very interesting, im gonna play with it tonight. I too am wondering what keeps the posture down? Reminds me of a Kurinnoy shoulder lock but from a duda position. It attacks the should with the really weird angle. I dunno how legit the move is gonna be tho... that posture thing is a killer.
    This is my game, so I'm very interested to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottRay View Post


    Kinda interesting. From the duda position but its a shoulder lock instead of a slicer/crush. I might play with this, as the duda is awesome but if you can lock the shoulder from there..hmm
    I like it. Thanks for posting this ScottRay. That OP video made it seem like a Duda without the leg figure four so this video cleared that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottRay View Post
    Ya, this is what interested me, I noticed he wasn't clamping down to slice on the duda. This seems to be a shoulder lock. Very interesting, im gonna play with it tonight. I too am wondering what keeps the posture down? Reminds me of a Kurinnoy shoulder lock but from a duda position. It attacks the should with the really weird angle. I dunno how legit the move is gonna be tho... that posture thing is a killer.
    I'd say if he's hitting it on black belts and in MMA, it's legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean applegate View Post
    Also in the video above, he doesn't close his legs. In my experience, no gi especially, guys immediately try to posture and will pull the arm out. Closing it off for the crush is crucial in controlling posture.

    Maybe he has some new details on how to control your opponent from here. I'm excited to see this.
    The little I played with this tonight, the arm is pretty wrapped up. It's really tight if they roll you from from mount and doesn't take much rotation to get the tap. Pretty legit. I'm now in love with this.
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