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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Timmermans View Post
    i think GSP's precession striking and awesome wrestling would have and advantage over Nick Diaz, but i agree that would still be a great fight.
    I can't see GSPs boxing being better than Nick's.

    However Nick's biggest weaknesses are his wrestling and his leg kick defense. Two things that GSP would definitely exploit.

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    i was referring to his striking as a whole head and leg kicks mixed in with boxing is better then nicks total striking even tho he has an advantage boxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Camacho View Post
    I'm just there to see him fight, not to hang out with him.
    I would love to hang out with him.

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    yo james get over yourself, the self reichous role is getting played, no BET for 10 years, lol why the Self Hate ? i've seen everything you can think of in the Hood, & that shit was happening way before BET, i personaly had guns before we could afford cable, don't blame Hip Hop, Bet, or Movies, blame the C,I,A, iran contra, cocaine & crack, thats documented & proven. Hip Hop is just another way out the hood, don't blame RAP or BET for societies ill's, that silly

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    first off ....no. I can be as self-righteous as I want to be. 2nd off my opinion my rules. I don't understand what your stake in standing up for a celebrity you may or may not know. I don't know him and am choosing to critique his public image. Attacking me ad hominem doesn't do anything about my argument. But all bullshit aside...I put a disclaimer in the initial thread I wrote saying that my hate on nick was founded on bullshit...so the thread was supposed to be biased..but even after that since you guys called me a hater I responded.

    Now as for your argument. Yes...hood shit did come before rap and role models and there were different factors that contributed to it. Stockton is not a hood. Hood mentality has been exported as the image has been put together and marketed by record execs and clothing manufactures. Yes, the CIA poured drugs and guns into urban communities, absolutely, however there is not ONE cause of urban blight. My point was specifically speaking about those who glorify the culture and in effect market it...not how it came to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Camacho View Post
    I can't see GSPs boxing being better than Nick's.

    However Nick's biggest weaknesses are his wrestling and his leg kick defense. Two things that GSP would definitely exploit.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme View Post
    yo james get over yourself, the self reichous role is getting played, no BET for 10 years, lol why the Self Hate ? i've seen everything you can think of in the Hood, & that shit was happening way before BET, i personaly had guns before we could afford cable, don't blame Hip Hop, Bet, or Movies, blame the C,I,A, iran contra, cocaine & crack, thats documented & proven. Hip Hop is just another way out the hood, don't blame RAP or BET for societies ill's, that silly
    You can't blame anyone or anything on this topic, not the C,I,A, not Iran Contra, not cocaine & not crack. Individuals make choices, they are the ones to blame for those choices. As far as BET and gansta rap goes, it definitely promotes the "hood menatlity" that is anti-education, pro hard drug, pro violence with in the community, pro exploitation of females, etc. but that is their freedom and right to do so, just like its James' right not to listen to, watch, or advocate it and even his right to spaek out against it, and the way it negativly impacts his community. It's definitely not self righteous or self hating.

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    Young guys are influenced by that BS. Sorry to burst your bubble for all you guys defending the brothers honor. (Not sure honor is the right word to use there, but I didn't know what else to use.) I see and fight guys all the time trying to live up to the thug life these and other fighters are putting out. Real class act at the start of a pro fight calling your oppanant a bitch over and over again. I have been around fighters my whole life, some of them with really bad back grounds. Growing up in areas that would make the Deiz brothers think they grew up in Beverly Hills. They all came and trained with my dad because they wanted to leave that life behind. They call it keepin it real....... Fine call it that. But I think they need to decide do they want to be gangsters or professional fighters. There is a differance.

    I will end by asking a question..... how many times have we run into people that spit venom about Eddie. What do most of us do. We explain what about him or the system works for us. or we laugh and walk away. Thats what any normal person would do.

    What do you think would happen if you met the Deiz brothers and started bashing Sensai Gracie. You know it's a lie if you say anything other than you would find yourself in a beatdown by both of them....... Thats a thug.

    I am so glad I have been taught, real tough guys don't talk tough....they don't act tough..... they just are.

    The Deiz way of life should be left to the bloods, the crips or the rappers, theres no room for it in the life of a pro fighter. And thats what I want to be. Look up the meaning of professional, you tell me if thats what Nate and Nick represent.

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    Ali is the king of talking shit, was he not professional ? mind games are a part of fighting, always have been, since indian warriors wearing there dead opposition's skin lol, unprofessional is not making wait, being out of shape, partying too much, lack of skills, theres enough '' boring really nice guys who where suits '' can't we save some room for dudes who just eat, sleep, train, & fight & let the suits do the Public Relations lol, Tyson & many other boxers let the promotion kiss the babies & shake hands, so they could train, sometimes fighters need to just fight & let promoters promote

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    Professional = signing a contract, honoring said agreement, and getting paid for it.

    Every other definition is an abstract adjective. Semantics.

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